tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jan 08 09:07:09 1996
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Re: Repetition
- From: "Garrett Michael Hayes" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Repetition
- Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:06:08 -0500
- Organization: Client/Server Labs
- Priority: normal
On 5 Jan 96 at 21:55, MR PAUL J COFFEY wrote:
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> Repetition in language training should be, as with Pavarotti
> singing scales and Babe Ruth in front of the batting machine,
> accompanied by monitoring.
<pe'>
> >There are a number of studies out there that show a highly effective way
> >to learn is through EXPERIENCE. Sit someone in a Klingon bar and they'll
> >start to LEARN. Or, on Earth, sit with some of the fluent people and
> >just have a conversation (or listen in). This is ACTIVE learning (as
> >opposed to your repetitive drilling which is more passive).
> I fully agree on the experience angle. I invented, lo these many
> years gone by, the immersion theory of language learning. Others invented
> it independently. They published and I didn't {sigh}. I used it when I
> went to Mexico. Within the year I was fluent enough and had acceptable
> enough pronunciation, intonation etc. to be able to deceive Mexicans, on
> the telephone, as to my nationality.
What amazes me about this whole discussion is that so few people
seem to understand that the primary difference between "immersion"
and "drilling", is really that immersion gives you immediate
feedback (the presence of others), useful correction (your
'companions' really use the language), and immediate reward (you are
actually conveying meaning, which gets you things you want - a meal,
a date, etc.) In drilling, you have to take on those other roles
yourself.
'etlhqengwI'
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