tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Dec 27 00:51:53 1996

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Re: I like Ford

In a message dated 96-12-26 22:01:01 EST, Amos Ezer hadani writes:

<< I think that there isn't such a thing Klingon 
 Politics.I mean there is,but if there will be an arguement they'll just kill

 each other and get it over with!(something like in KCD[I think...]). >>

{patlh} means military or POLITICAL rank.  You may be right that politics are
not carried on as in America, or in countries of radically different
political ilk, and that Klingons are a military society, but I argue that
even the ja'chuq is a political confrontation.  Klingons have a council
somewhat like a senate or the Iroqouis Nation's council, qar'a'?

I am trying to avoid non-Okrand sources for this argument that Klingon
politics exist.  They even get nasty.  So, I am not quoting the novels.

Finally, I disagree that even the most belligerent Klingons do not kill
simply.  Klingons kill honorably, which leads to complex mores regarding
killing.  Although the word {HIgh} exists, more words regarding honor through
fighting fair pop into my mind.

I go so far as to argue that the makers of the CD game Klingons! erred by
having Qaulon kill Vok while the latter attended a House banquet where even
enemies are welcomed with honor.  He should have harbored his hatred and
killed Vok anywhere and any time else.

Okay, assasination apparently takes place in Klingon society.  Even Kayless
was virtually murdered {chot}.  Because the {ta'} was so corrupt, no other
{ta'} was enthroned; rather the ja'chuq took over as the main route of
ascension to power.  Since words exist for "murder" and "assasination," we
must assume that even in a society where honor is paramount (word used
deliberately) that some HeSwI'pu' continue to exist.  Other Klingons, viz the
House of Duras, for example, seem to have a misguided sense of honor.

Enough rambling.  As to tlhIngan Hol, my main argument is that the very
existence within the core of the language, not borrowed, of words mean the
culture requires means of expression of the concepts those words relate.

peHruS

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