tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Dec 26 07:30:07 1996
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Re: Klingon CD-Rom
- From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Klingon CD-Rom
- Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:30:04 -0500 (EST)
- In-reply-to: <[email protected]> (message from fonsecaon Wed, 25 Dec 1996 18:33:46 -0800)
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>Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 18:33:46 -0800
>From: fonseca <[email protected]>
>
>Hi, David.
>
>Recently I gave myself the Klingon CD-Rom :))) Two things gave me very
>intriguish. The 1rst one is openning where Gowron speaking in
>tlhingan-Hol. I could understand nothing (I'm a begginer, off course) and
>the 2nd one when the Gowron is talking with the Pakled commander and he
>said something to T'Var (to be silent, I think).
>If you have time, can you write and translate it for me?
I can't understand Gowron's opening speech either, and I'm not a beginner.
I wish I could; Okrand apparently coached him through it and all. He once
asked if I could follow it, hoping O'Reilly had gotten the hang of it...
I'll have to keep trying at it.
>Other thing, It's quite difficult for me undertand the grammar.
>In English I can say: The World Cup Final Match.
>In Portuguese I say: O Jogo Final da Copa do Mundo.
>Except for the article "The" = "O", the rest of the sentence is totality
>inverse and I have to use 2 prepositions "da" and "do". How can I say it
>in Klingon?
There probably isn't a simple translation, but let's look at the
structure. One way to look at this is "world's cup's final match".
Klingon uses the noun-noun construction for "X's Y": it would come out as
"world cup (match final)" (I put parens around the last noun-phrase). Of
course, "world cup" has a very special meaning; I doubt "'u' HIvje'"
(universe's glass) would mean the same to a Klingon.
>Hearing the CD-Rom, it'll be very easy to learn the phonems, because it's
>very similar than portuguese, except "tlh" - this is very gutural and
>very difficult.
"tlh" actually isn't gutteral; it's lateral. It's made at the top and
sides of the mouth, sort of a cross between "t" and a whispered "l".
~mark
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