tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Nov 18 13:34:23 1995
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Re: pongwIj vIbuStaH
On Fri, 17 Nov 1995 [email protected] wrote:
> It's been a really slow day at work. So I started thinking about my name. I
> could have chosen different variants.
>
> raHel = the Hebrew pronunciation
> reychel = the English pronunciation
I kinda like {raHel} myself.
> But I wanted something different, but still close. I decided to work with a
> Yiddish diminutive form of Rachel.
>
> The problem I ran into was that there is no sound of 'u' as in put or rut. If
> you put a glottal stop after a consonant, you get the sound 'u'.
Interesting, when I pronounce 'put' & 'rut' I use different vowel sounds
for each, so I can't really tell what sound you are actually referring to.
Also, I don't get a vowel sound when I make a glottal stop after a consonant.
For example, in rapid speech, I pronounce "president" as /prez@den'/.
When I say this, I don't make a vowel sound.
> So, if I were to try to spell out how I really wanted my name to sound it would
> be <r'H'l>. But even I couldn't accept that. I really wanted the 'u' sound
> after the 'r'. So I left the first <'> in and put in the 'oo' <u>.
I sure wish I could hear you pronounce <r'H'l>. I'm pretty sure I
can't. {{;-)
> If I was a person at Paramount, making up this name, I probably would of spelled
> it as R'Hul. But since I was pushing it with the <'> I figured that should
> stick with the small <r>. (Actually the more I look, the more my name seems like
> a Vulcan name, yuck. What is it with ST and <'>s in names?)
I guess they think it looks cool. We have several examples of names
where the sound {I} is not transliterated when writing the Klingon name in
federation standard. It's possible that the {I} sound may be inaudible
or not very audible when it appears in an unstressed syllable.
E.g. K'Tinga {qItI'nga'}
K'Vort {qIvo'rIt}
Worf {wo'rIv}
Using these as examples, you could use {I} to represent an unstressed vowel
of indeterminate sound, e.g. {rIHul}. (Which BTW, correct or not, is how
I pronounce your name, never having actually heard it spoken.)
It's just a thought. The final choice on how you spell your name is
enterely up to you of course.
> r'Hul
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