tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed May 24 21:25:22 1995
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Re: The `Ring Rhyme' in Klingon
re: yoDtargh
> > Perhaps if I had a better understanding of Klingon phonology then I would't
> > make such mistakes.. therefore someone should point out how the damn thing
> > works in the first place.
>
> All Klingon words in TKD consist of these syllables:
> CV, CVC, CVrgh, CVw', CVy' or -oy. (C = consonant, V = verb)
>
> jabbI'ID: CVC-CV-CVC
> maghoSchoHmoHneS'a': CV-CVC-CVC-CVC-CVC-CVC
V = Vowel???
> > > They would; they are not willing to die, but they must.
> > > {Heghqangbe' 'a HeghnIS}.
>
> > Perhaps they must, and perhaps someone else needed them to die but I can't
> > see why *they* needed themselves to die. Afterall, if they all died then who
> > would fight the orks? Perhaps the elves.. but who's to say that they
> > wouldn't lose without the humans..
>
> Type 2 verb suffixes indicate how much choice the subject has about the
> action described or how predisposed the subject it to doing it. {-nIS}
> does not indicate that there is any volition involved, but rather, one is
> compelled to do something.
Oh okay.. just when you said 'need' it seemed a little off.. I take your
point.
> In this example, Eru, or the Valar, has doomed men to die. Unlike Elves,
> Men were givin a finite lifespan. Men don't have a choice in the
> matter. Without exception, every one of them dies. Death is alternately
> called the Gift of Men or the Doom of Men. Because it is their inevitable,
> inescapable, preordained fate that they must die, HeghnIS chaH.
So can you use nIS (need) to mean must?