tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Jan 29 14:08:37 1995
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Re: 'orghenya' rojmab (Part 1) Second try......
According to [email protected]:
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> nuqneH
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> OK....How's this for a second attempt at the first two sections.....
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> 'ay' wa'
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> chaH poQ rojmabvan 'oH lulaj tlhIngan wo''e' juQjIjDIvI''e' je.
I don't understand what {-van} is doing at the end of {rojmab}.
A "peace treaty salute"? I also see what appears to be two
complete sentences jammed together with no grammatical
explanation, and I don't understand either sentence.
The first one looks like "The peace treaty salute requires them
(capable of language)." The second one looks like, "THE UNITED
FEDERATION OF PLANETS and the KLINGON EMPIRE accept it." I
don't think you want the suffix {-'e'} here at all.
Perhaps you were trying for:
rojmabvam lulaj tlhIngan wo' juQjIjDIvI' je 'e' poQ rojmabvam.
"This peace treaty requires that the United Federation of
Planets and the Klingon empire accept this treaty." The second
instance of {rojmabvam} could be replaced with {'oH}, but TKD
says it is perfectly acceptable to explicitly repeat a noun in
these circumstances, and for a peace treaty, you want things as
clear as possible.
> loghDaq SuSuvchuqchugh mangghommeylIj qummeylIj je,
> SIbI' QotlhchuqmoHlu' mangghommeylIj.
I've never seen {-chuqmoHlu'} used together. Let me think about
this. "One causes one'sself to disable each other." Naaa. That
can't be it. Then {mangghommeylIj} sits there in the subject
position, when it CAN'T be the subject because {-lu'} says the
subject is indefinite.
Tweak the word order, drop the {-chuqmoH} and I think we may
have something here:
loghDaq SuSuvchuqchugh mangghommeylIj qummeylIj je, SIbI
mangghommeylIj Qotlhlu'.
If your armies and governments fight each other in space, your
armies will be immediately disabled." [...something will
immediately disable your armies.]
> 'ay' cha'
> -=-=-=-=-
> DaH choHqu'bej ghu'. reH tlhIngan wo' yuQjIjDIvI' je joj tu'lu'taH.
> pa' Suvbe'chuq mangghommey.
"Now, the situation definitely changes a lot. There will always
be a Klingon Empire [Yaaaaaaaay!] and a United Federation of
Planets [Booooooo!]. There, armies do not fight each other."
> The original English text can now also be found on my homepage,
> select //'orghenya' rojmab// to load it...address below the .sig
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> The next bits coming shortly.....
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> Qapla'
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