tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Nov 10 07:40:00 1994
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Re: A poem
- From: Mark J. Reed <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: A poem
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 10:33:28 EST
- In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 10 Nov 1994 10:24:47 -0500. <[email protected]>
charghwI' writes:
\ According to David Trimboli:
\ Welcome back! My alarm just went off and I have to go now. I
\ have only one initial observation:
\
\ > "qaSchoHpu' may'"
\
\ This means, "The battle changes to have completed happening."
\ In other words, it is now over. It just finished. Drop the
\ {-pu'} and I think you will have what you want. "The battle
\ begins to happen." Your poem has nothing to do with the
\ completion of the battle, so the perfective is not what you
\ want. I know that you intend to apply the perfective to
\ {-choH}, but that's not how it works. Both the perfective and
\ {-choH} apply themselves to the main verb. You are saying that
\ the verb is complete in its action and this involves a change
\ of state. If anything, it emphasizes completion as being
\ different from the action that preceeded it.
Uhm, that's one interpretation, but I don't think it's necessarily
the [only] correct one. My impression of the verb suffixes is that they are
ordered because they get applied in that order, conceptually.
"qaSchoHpu'" to me means that the changing-to-happen is complete, not that
the happening is changing to be complete . . .
Of course, some form with "tagh" might be a better way to convey the idea:
qaS 'e' tagh may' "the battle begins to happen"
That may not quite work, but I also have a dearth of time to look at it
right now . . .
-marqoS
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