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Re: Suffixes (Was: <<tlhIngan 'o' Humghach>>vetlh)



Doch tlha' ghitlhta' ~mark (maQSolSon):
[...]
: >1:  Is it possible to use the same rover *twice* in two different places on 
: >the same verb?  My instincts (again) say that this is incorrect, and it should
:  
: >hardly ever be needed, but I have encountered a few times where this was 
: >exactly what I was trying to do.  I got around it by re-wording the sentence 
: >entirely.
: 
: DujlIj Qoch DujwIj'e'.  It's in my mind that this kind of double-usage is
: definitely part of rover-ness, just like being able to modify a verb in
: more than one way depending on position.  I would certainly say
: {jIQuchbe'laHbe'} for "I cannot agree", since "-be'" is permitted in any
: position and is needed in both.  We haven't forbidden the use of two rovers
: on the same verb (anyone have a canonical example of a verb with two
: rovers?  I can't think of any at the moment); why should it matter if the
: two rovers happen to be the same one?
There is most definitely a canonical example; it is in TKD, in the section on
rovers. In demonstrating the emphatic force of >qu'<, Okrand uses
>piHoHqu'vipbe'<, >piHoHvipqu'be'<, and >piHoHvipbe'qu'.


: 
: ~mark
: 
: 

Qapla' Qichqemwi'vo'.
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