tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Nov 17 23:46:28 1993
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Re: ghojmoHwI'wI' Qu'
- From: Peter Garza <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: ghojmoHwI'wI' Qu'
- Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 01:46:17 -0600 (CST)
- In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> from "Captain Krankor" at Nov 17, 93 02:35:07 pm
va! jIQaghqu'pu'. pab vIqaw 'e' vInIDta' 'ej tlhIngan mu'ghomDaq 'oH
vInejbe' 'e' vInIDta'. wej jIHrupbe'law'.
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> >"music" ghojmoHwI' 'oHtaH ghojmoHwI'pu'wI' wa''e'. "University of
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> nuv ghaH, qar'a'? vaj "ghaHtaH" 'oHnIS.
HIja'. Daqmey law'Daq "'oH" vIghItlhpu'DI' "ghaH" 'oHnIS.
> >Texas"Daq ghojwI''a' (graduate student) 'oHtaH. "U.T."Daq ghojwI' neH
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> "ghaHtaH" 'oHnISqa'.
Dung yIlegh.
For brevity, I'll clip my other "'oH"/"ghaH" screwups. law'bejpu' 'oH.
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> >Qu'Daj'e'. "song"Daq Hol law' tu'lu' 'e' neHta' ghaH. "Chinese"
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> wot cha'DIch 'oHDI' "neH"'e' "'e'" lo'be'lu'. "'e'" yIlel.
jIlIjpu'. "'e'" lulo'be' wot jatlhghach "neH" je.
Oops, I forgot. "neH" and verbs of speaking don't use "'e'". Guess my
memory wasn't as good as I thought.
I'll also clip the numerous "'e'" errors further down.
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> >jIHvaD nuqDaq Hol vIjatlhlaH 'e' tlhobta' ghojmoHwI'wI'. Holmey
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> nuqDaq? jIyajchu'be'.
"which" vItu'laHbe'. The sentence should be "My teacher asked me which
languages I could speak." The best alternative I could think of was
sort of a Japanese construction of "where"'s language. What places'
languages. Languages of what places. It's a stretch. Maybe just
"nuq Holmey". Comments?
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> >ghaytan tera'ngan yabvaD tlhIngan HolDaq "song" 'IHbe' 'e' vIja'ta'.
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> "'e'" yIlelqa'qu'. Ditto. Also suspect some word order problems; what's
> the subject of 'IH?
Probably should have been "tlhIngan HolDaq 'song'". Also I had a question
about the use of "-Daq" in this case. I'm not really sure how to say "in
Klingon". I think "-Daq" is a physical place suffix and not used for
abstract notions (but that's just a feeling). Without it, though, "tlhIngan
Hol 'song'" sounds like a song about tlhIngan Hol, not necessarily in the
language. Maybe I'm thinking too much.
> >Qochbe'pu' ghaH. naDev tlhIngan HolDaq "song"Daj oH:
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> >nuqneH
> >nuq oHtaH pongwIj'e'?
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> ' ghaj mu' "'oH". qatlh pongDaj'e' tlhoblI' "sing"wI'? "ponglIj'e'"
> vIpIHpu'.
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> >maQuj vIneH'a'?
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> Doch neHbogh Sovbe''a' "sing"wI'? naDev "DaneH'a'" vIpIHpu'.
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Yup, messed both of 'em up.
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> And then, if we wanna *really* Klingonize this kiddy-song:
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> "jupwI' bImojbe'chugh vaj bIHegh." {{;-)
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> majQa', Peter. jabbI'IDvam vIlaDghach vItIvpu'.
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> >Peter Garza
> >[email protected]
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> --HoD Qanqor
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>
Looking over all the pronoun-type mistakes I made, I thought of the Bugs
Bunny, Daffy duck, and Elmer Fudd cartoon with "Would you like to shoot
me now or wait 'til you get home?" Eventually, Bugs works it so Daffy
gets shot. Daffy insists on running through the dialogue again, and when
he finds where Bugs switched pronouns on him, Daffy yells...
"Aha! Pronoun trouble."
My problem exactly. Anyway, chobach DaneH'a' 'ach juH bIpawDI' DaneH'a'?
Peter Garza
[email protected]