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[Tlhingan-hol] Rant about verbs of motion

Robyn Stewart ([email protected])

From: "Robyn Stewart" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Rant about verbs of motion
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:00:08 -0600
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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">Marc, rut HughlIj vI</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">&#8217;uchchoH vIneH.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><BR>
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<FONT FACE="Calibri">In TKD, the most accessible work of canon for beginners, and the foundation of everything we know about Klingon, you clearly e</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">xplained the use of jaH and &#8211;Daq with sentences like</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">pa&#8217;Daq yIjaH</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> Go to the room!</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> You repeated this in CK with</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">teplIj yIwoH &#8216;ej pa&#8217;lIjDaq yIjaH</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">, in PK with</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">naDevvo&#8217; vaS&#8217;a&#8217;Daq majaHlaH&#8217;a&#8217;?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">and in TKW with</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">may&#8217;Daq jaHDI&#8217; SuvwI&#8217; juppu&#8217;Daj lonbe&#8217;.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">It was perhaps the cleares</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">t, best documented</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">canon use of a word we had.<BR>
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And then in what may be the cleares</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">t,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> most expansive interview you have given, you</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">threw that</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">a</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">wa</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">y, stating</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">with unambiguous examples that</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">&#8220;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">t</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">he prefix makes the difference in meaning. {jI-} means I'm</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">moving along in someplace. {vI-} means I'm moving along to</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">someplace.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">&#8220;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN></P>

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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">So Marc, while I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">get that it&#8217;s nice to be able to distinguish between locative and accusative, and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">understand that you don</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">&#8217;t want to be tied in 2014 to what you wrote about our language in 1987, how the fuck am I supposed to tell beginners that they should say pa&#8217; vIjaH when you told them, in the only reference they own, to say pa</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">&#8217;Daq jIjaH?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">You did it again with chegh.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">ghorgh pa&#8217;wIjDaq jIchegh.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> (PK) became</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">lupDujHom vIchegh&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;I return to the shuttle.&quot;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">I don&#8217;t know wtf you were doing with</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">CH:</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">pa&#8217; jIyIt&#8217;a&#8217;.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><BR>
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<FONT FACE="Calibri">And you, you reading this, because Marc isn&#8217;t, if you interview Marc, and ask him a question without presenting him with a complete list of ways he has canonically used a word in the past, then you are guilty of this too.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">s the reason we don&#8217;t have more beginners learning this language that it has turned into an unknowable morass of bonkers redirection?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">No, it&#8217;s because kids these days don&#8217;t learn things from books. I&#8217;m desperately trying to address this, and becoming increasingly more desperate</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">, as I survey</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">what is out there as try to come up with something honest, simple and correct to tell these poor learners about how to use jaH.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> Or yIt. Or &#8211;Daq.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><BR>
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<FONT FACE="Calibri">A</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">lso qurgh and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">Holtej</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> haven&#8217;t answered their e-mails</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> lately,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">probably</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">because I&#8217;ve been harassing them and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">I&#8217;m weathered into a tiny northern town and yuch vIneH.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> &#8216;ej qen Hegh &#8216;e&#8217;mamwI&#8217; &#8216;a Hopmo&#8217; ghaH nol nablu&#8217;meH jIjeSlaHchu&#8217;be&#8217;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">mo&#8217; jImogh.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><BR>
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<FONT FACE="Calibri">yuch vInejmeH Qe&#8217;Daq jIjaH XXXXXXXXX Qe</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">&#8217; vIjaH.<BR>
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I&#8217;m really okay here, and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">can&#8217;t expect instant e-mail</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> replies</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> but if you happen to be in High Level, Alberta, I could use a hug.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-ca"><FONT FACE="Calibri">pItlh.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-ca"></SPAN></P>

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