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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Hoghvam qaSpu': malDIv DevwI'quv SughHa'law'ta' QI'

Brent Kesler ([email protected]) [KLI Member]



<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Qov <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">


&quot;He resigned for blah blah, says person,&quot; is pretty standard English journalese, but I find it weird having an emphatic ghaH before I even know who is being referred to. I would much prefer:<br>
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vay tlhachmey &#39;e&#39; botmeH, pajpu&#39; malDIV DevwI&#39;quv, mo&#39;ameD naSID, ja&#39; ghaH.<div><br></div></blockquote><div><br>bIlugh. mu&#39;tlheghlIj Qap law&#39;, mu&#39;tlheghwIj Qap puS.<br><br> </div>
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DaH lut pIm ja&#39;taH.<br>
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DaH lut pIm Daja&#39;taH&#39;a&#39;?  DaH lut pIm ja&#39; mo&#39;ameD. mo&#39;ameD Daqelchugh, nungbogh mu&#39;tlheghvaD poH ngu&#39;wI&#39; vIchup.<br></blockquote><div><br>This is a problem I&#39;ve run into often. It&#39;s easy to say something like {wa&#39;leS}, but a lot harder to say something like &quot;one day after that&quot; succinctly. I also want to avoid words like {wa&#39;leS}, because they won&#39;t be accurate a year from now. I haven&#39;t found good strategies for expressing time, so I try to avoid it (which makes writing about current events difficult).<br>

<br>chaq {lutDaj choHpu&#39; naSID} vIja&#39;chugh, qaq. vaj...<br>- pajpu&#39;DI&#39; malDIV DevwI&#39;quv, mo&#39;ameD naSID, vay tlhachmey &#39;e&#39; botmeH pajpu&#39; ja&#39;. lutDaj choHpu&#39; naSID. <br><br><br></div>
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cha&#39;DIchDaj, mo&#39;ameD wa&#39;ID &#39;aSan manIq, pum naSID; qIQ nabmeH yeqlaw&#39;pu&#39; yaSpu&#39;, ghaH je. pumvam tem &#39;aSan, &#39;ach DevwI&#39;quv gheSpu&#39;.<br>
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&#39;Iq mo&#39;ameDpu&#39;.<br><div></div></blockquote><div><br>&#39;ej &#39;IQ wa&#39;.<br> <br></div><div><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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DIS cha&#39;SaD chorgh, DevwI&#39;quv mojta&#39; naSID. mawmun &#39;abDul ghayum cho&#39;pu&#39;. qaStaHvIS wejmaH DISmey, HI&#39; Dapu&#39; ghayum, &#39;ach naSID luwIvtaHvIS rewbe&#39;pu&#39;, may mIw. qum DevtaHvIS, qo&#39;vaD yuQ tujchoHghach qImmoH &#39;e&#39; nIDtaH. Soch latlh &#39;ujmey &#39;abchoHchugh bIQ&#39;a&#39;, malDIv SoDchu&#39;.<br>


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malDIv Dab qa&#39;naDa&#39;ngan &#39;orwI&#39; law&#39;.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>qatlh? Hujlaw&#39;.<br><br>bI&#39;reng<br></div></div>
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