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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh wejmaH chorgh: <parmaqqay>

Robyn Stewart ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']



At 19:17 13/02/2012, you wrote:
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Qov <[email protected]> wrote:
> "HIja', 'a tlhoS vIqoplu'!" jatlh vajar. romuluSngan HIq qangpu'bogh qImyal
> tlhutlhbe'chu' pay' 'e' tlhoj.

<HIq Hat vIHotpu', 'a vIghupbe'.>

bItlhaQ. ghup 'e' lIjlaw' vajar.

> jatlh "HIq vIpoQ." HIq SuqmeH Hu' ghutar.

reH batlh vangrup ghutar. 'Il quvDaj 'e' 'ang. 'op ghojwI' vIDevbogh rur.

taghpa' 'ay''a'vam Dal ghutar 'e' vIHaj. Do', lIH'egh ghutar 'ej bochqu' quvDaj.

> bItlaw' Hota'ro'. ghaHvaD jatlh vajar, "DaHjaj lI' qeSlIj. HI'Ij:
> SopwI'pa'Daq jIneppu'. wa'Hu' matlhutlhchoHpa' chIch qanum. Daqotlh. motlh
> yaS ngoy'nIStaHghach yajbe' QupwI'. nIroSHa'moHtaHDI' wIvmey Qatlh, yaS
> tlhIbHa' SoH."

mumISmoH mu'tlheghvam Qav. chaq tlhoy HoSghaj <roSHa'moH>. vIHlaHbe'
'e' Del qar'a'? jImughta'DI' 'ej DIvI' Hol mu'tlhegh vIqelDI', qech
vIghovlaw'. wot pIm vIwIv: <nIvoQtaHDI' wIvmey>. tlhuHlaHtaH, 'ach
purmeH vumqu'nIS. qechvam yajchu' Hota'ro'.

mu'tlheghveth vIqontaHvIS, pIm Dapu' Hota'ro', qImyal luSuchtaHvIS. ghaytan vIpujmoHbe'pu'mo' jIQaghpu'. 'ach Duj toymeH 'ej HoD lobmeH tlhochDI' wIvmey, tlhoS Hota'ro' roSHa'moHlu'bej. jIQublI'

> jatlh vajar, "DupIH qImyal Sa'. 'a qavoq."

Hoch'e' pIH jay'.

qan 'ej yIntaH.

> "yIvbeHvetlh Dunojta' parmaqqaylI'," jatlh vajar. tlhojbe'pu'mo' Hagh.

loQ jIHagh je jIH 'ach jImonqu'mo' Doghqu'wI' vIrur.

SIbI' yIvbeHvetlh Daghov SoH 'e' vIqaw.

> jatlh Hota'ro'. "yIlegh. naDev muDuQchu'pu' taj QIn." cha'meH ngechDaj
> lupoSmoH nItlhDu'Daj.
>
> leghlaH vajar. "Doj," jatlh.

(Doj nuq? pIvchoH DIr DuQlu'pu'bogh 'e' naD'a'?)

vIqontaHvIS, jangmeH vajar loDnalwI' vIghel. jIjatlh, "DIr nguvlu'bogh muchmeH be', ngech 'angchugh. nuq Dajatlh?"
DIvI' Hol lo'taHvIS "Doj" chup.  mu'meylIj vImughta'DI' Quch ghaH.

> chegh ghutar, HIq bal, HIvje'mey je qengtaHvIS. "qaH'eng!" jatlh.

latlh nuvvaD yap'a' HIvje' qengpu'bogh?

ghaytan ghoSlI' qaH'eng 'e' Sov.

> mon vajar, jatlh. "wa'logh," 'ach QIjbe'mo' qID 'e' luHar latlhpu'. HIq
> lutlhutlh.

(luHarDI', lugh'a'? ramchugh lut De'Hom, vImerlu'.)

DaH SoHvaD lutHommey vI'IqmoHbe'.

(ngo'taHvIS logh Duj, raghchoHbej. pIj raSya' tengchaH <roj>
ghorlu'taH, polHa'lu'pa'. 'oHDaq Dat mep Hum tu'lu'.)

jISovbe'pu'! jIqIDmeH mep Hum choljaHmey je vIlo'ta'.

> jatlh ghutar. "wa'logh SeHlaw tI'meH mavjopmey lo' ghIrel 'e' vIbej."
>
> "SeHlawvetlh yIngu'!" jatlh vajar.
>
> "ngo'mo' Duj Hoch DInuD," jatlh qaH'eng. "ghorgh chen'a'?"

<ghorgh> ghelchugh, <-'a'> yIchelQo'.

Huj.

> jatlh vajar, "wa'maH chorgh ben. ngo'qu'be'."

DujDaj ngo' law' 'op negh qan puS. Ewww, that doesn't work at all. I
can't call a ship {qan} without laughing, and I can't call a soldier
{ngo'} without wincing.

I had exactly that difficulty in drafting ghutar's reply (at the beginning of the next 'ay'). That's likely where the strange grammar in the question came from, as I kept changing the sentence to set up the following ones.

Speaking of {qan}, here's a thought that struck me this morning. When
one person points a pinky finger at another, who is the {qanwI'}?

Awesome. bIlugh. qanmo' qanwI' qan qanwI' qanwI'.

> If anyone wants to write either of the stories that vajar didn't tell here,
> please do so with my blessing. Tomorrow is the last 'ay' in 'ay''a' Soch.
> It's been kind of a long 'ay''a'. There will be a short break before I start
> sending 'ay''a' chorgh.

vIlaDpa' jImImmo' lenvetlh vItu'be'.

'ay' Hut vIlaDchoHpa' qaloS.

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