tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Nov 28 06:45:14 2011
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] how to use {nej}?
{nej} "look for, seek, search for" in canon:
qanej
I look for you. KLS
vInejqa'
I am resuming the search.
I am searching for him/her again. TKD
jagh luHoHmeH jagh lunejtaH
They are searching for the enemy in order to kill him.
[In order to kill the enemy, they are searching for the enemy.] TKD
'avwI' nejDI' narghta'bogh qama' reH 'avwI' Sambej
When an escaped prisoner looks for a guard, he always finds one. TKW
{Sam} "locate, seek and find" in canon:
cheng'e' DaH yISam
Find Chang. ST6
HaqwI''e' DaH yISam
Find the SURGEON now! TKD
Qel vISamnIS
I need to find a doctor. CK
motlh ray' luSamlaHmeH De' Qatlh cha' tlhIngan Duj jIH'a'
The main viewer on a Klingon ship is usually overlaid with
a complex target acquisition grid. SP3
HIq DaSammeH tach yI'el
To find ale, go into a bar. TKW
yIvoq 'ach lojmItmey yISam
Trust, but locate the doors. [sic for {tISam}] TKW
'avwI' nejDI' narghta'bogh qama' reH 'avwI' Sambej
When an escaped prisoner looks for a guard, he always finds one. TKW
romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej HoHbogh nejwI'
Romulan hunter-killer probe KCD
chotwI' DaSamjaj
May you find the murderer. KGT
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
> -----Original Message-----
> On 11/28/2011 8:26 AM, Gaerfindel wrote:
>
> > My instinct is to go with {ngem yInej} for "Search (in) the forest,"
> and
> > {qawHaq nej} for "Search (in) the database." "Search the catalogue
> for
> > the book," I'd render {mem yInej 'ej paq botu'}.
>
> <Sam> yIlIjQo'.
>
> The given translation of {nej} is "look for, seek, search for." That
> makes a strong case that the proper object of {nej} is the thing
> searched for, not what you're searching through. {mem yInej} says
> "search for the catalog."
>
> For most situations, {-Daq} will do. When you're searching a physical
> book, for instance, you really are looking *in* the book. {memDaq paq
> pong yInej} "search for the book's name in the catalog."
>
> If I saw {-Daq} used with something with an abstract location, like
> information in a databank, I wouldn't think twice about it. Even then
> the thing searched for is actually *inside* something else. {qawHaqDaq
> De' vInej} "I search for the information in the databank."
>
> Whether {nej} is used to "query" a database is a matter best left to a
> Klingon informant. I wouldn't be surprised if it were; the search
> metaphor is too obvious.
>
> --
> SuStel
> http://www.trimboli.name/
>
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