tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Nov 26 15:34:19 2011
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] paq'batlh: VERBS USED AS NOUNS
<br><div class="gmail_quote">'ISqu':<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Clear cases:<br>
<br>
{tuj} – n. heat<br>
<br>
Their anger so hot,<br>
It could melt the rock<br>
tujqu'choHmo' QeHchaj<br>
nagh tetlaH tujvam<br>
(pp 76-77)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This isn't a new word. It's on TKD p. 110/136. :-)</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
{puj} – n. weakness<br>
<br>
United to do battle together!<br>
Against fear and against weakness!<br>
SuvvIpghach puj je<br>
HarghmeH yeq chaH<br>
(pp 118-119)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The entire line reads:</div><div> nItebHa' molor HI''a'</div><div> SuvvIpghach puj je</div><div> HarghmeH yeq chaH</div><div> </div><div>
I read {puj} as an adjective here when I first read it {SuvvIpghach puj} "weak fear of fighting", and read the {je} as connecting that and {molor HI''a'}. It's not an impossible reading, though {SuvvIpghach puj} is a very confusing term. You're probably right that {puj} is a noun here.</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">{ghom} – n. assembly<br>
<br>
SIqral bIQtIq ghom<br>
Assembly at the River Skral<br>
(pp 140-141, 202-203)<br>
<br>
The word cannot be a verb because then the line would mean<br>
"They meet the River Skral", which doesn't make sense in the<br>
light of what happens in the book.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Again, {ghom} was already known as a noun. It's given as "group, party" in TKD p. 86, 135 and as "band, group, part" in KGT p. 214. "Assembly" is just another English translation of the same concept.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">[... poD ...]<br>
All of these are titles of specific cantos with the exception of {ngaS},<br>
which can also be considered as a type of heading naming a section in a<br>
book. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>The sections of the book are called {paq'yav}, {paq'raD}, and {paq'QIH}. {yav} and {QIH} exist as nouns, but {raD} is a verb only (AFAIK). But perhaps book or chapter titles do not follow normal grammatical rules. </div>
<div> </div></div>-- <br>De'vID<br>
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