tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Jul 25 08:33:30 2008
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Re: idea for writing system
Well, all writing systems are phonetic.
ghunchu'wI' writes:
> On Jul 25, 2008, at 3:03 AM, Lawrence John Rogers wrote:
>
>> nuqneH?!?
>
> tlhIngan Hol wIjatlhqu' vIneH jay'.
>
>> A while ago I had this idea for the Klingon Writing System. The
>> pdf file
>> supplied by KLI under Writing Klingon shows a disconnect between
>> the show's
>> writing system and the language as-known. The pdf article by Dr.
>> Schoen
>> implies that perhaps Klingon has more than an alphabetic set of
>> characters.
>
> The Klingon Dictionary tells us that those people who pronounce {b}
> and {m} the same must remember the proper spelling of words. This
> implies that other people do not, and that the spelling in {pIqaD} is
> phonetic.
>
> wabmey 'oS Deghmey 'e' chup tlhIngan Hol mu'ghom.
>
>> Anybody like the idea or have any scholarly, serious ideas for what
>> where
>> this writing system should head?
>
> For my purposes, Klingon is a spoken language. The writing system
> used is merely a way to record and transmit speech. We have one
> absolutely official writing system that everyone here can use (the
> Romanized transcription from TKD), we have one officially unusable
> writing system (the symbols seen on television), and we have an
> unofficial but popular blend of the two (using a collection of the TV
> symbols to represent specific sounds).
>
> tlhIngan Hol jatlhqu'nISlu'. QIch qon pIqaD 'e' vIHarchu'. naDev
> TKD ghItlhmeH pat lo' Hoch. Hov leng much pat lo'laHbe' vay'. rut
> pIqaDqoq lo'lu'.
>
> Since you're the one proposing a new system, it's up to you to
> determine its direction.
>
> patlIj chu' DaSeHnIS SoH.
>
>> Something constructive instead of
>> insulting or destructive this time would be appropriate,
>> considering I'm on
>> my way to learning the language and berating all my ideas just
>> gives me (and
>> everyone else who reads these posts) a bad, bad taste.
>
> I propose that if you're merely "on your way to learning the
> language", you are not yet in a position to suggest changes or
> additions that will be taken seriously by those who have already
> learned it well enough to converse with each other.
>
> wej tlhIngan Hol DajatlhlaHchugh, DachoH wej 'e' Dabaj jay'.
>
> My constructive suggestion is for you to study the language as we
> know it, to learn to communicate using the established vocabulary and
> grammar (and writing system), and only then to give serious thought
> to reformations or supplements.
>
> yIghoj. yIQum. ghIq choHmey tIqelchoH.
>
> -- ghunchu'wI' 'utlh
>
>
>
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