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RE: Klingon WOTD: neb (noun)

Steven Boozer ([email protected])



> > This is the Klingon Word Of The Day for Saturday, April 5, 2008.
> >
> > Category: Animals
> >
> > Klingon word:   neb
> > Part of Speech: noun
> > Definition:     beak, bill
> >
> > Additional Notes:
> > HolQeD 10:4, p. 4: {matlh juppu' mu'mey}.

Never used in canon:

Related nouns:

   The warhead of the torpedo is called its {jorneb} (which seems
   to contain the verb {jor} ["explode"] but is otherwise not
   analyzable)."     [KGT 56; N.B. published before HQ 10:4 IIRC]

   I find the idea of a torpedo or missile as a bird of prey diving
   at its target beak-first to be a rather apposite metaphor.
   (Qes, 6/27/07)]

Related verbs:

{wom} "peck"


Jonathan Webley wrote:
>Presumably, since a body part of a bird, then the plural is {nebDu'}?

Correct.  Okrand on {-Du'}:

   This suffix is used when referring to body parts of those beings
   capable of using language as well as of any other animal ... The
   suffix {-mey} cannot be used with body parts."        (TKD 23)

We have an example WRT animals:  the plural of {lem} "hoof" is {lemDu'} 
"hooves", even when a food item:  {tIqnagh lemDu'} "*tknag* hooves" which 
are always referred to in the plural according to KCD.  (FYI "The *tknag* 
is a dangerous carnivore native to Taganika.  The skin is tough and 
leathery, and the *tknag* is a formidable prey."  A large food animal, it 
is hunted with a {naQjej)} in the {chontay} [ritual hunt].)

There is, however, a small wrinkle WRT body parts that have "lost their 
association with the creatures that originally had them".  Okrand comments 
in st.klingon 3/23/98:

   Thus {DIrmey} "skins" and {veDDIrmey} "pelts" are not (or, perhaps
   better, are no longer) body parts, but rather are materials from
   which things (clothing or blankets, for example) may be made.
   They've lost their association with the creatures that originally
   had them. (This is kind of like the distinction in English between
   "beef", which is eaten, and "cattle", which isn't.) If there still
   is that association, that is, if the creatures still have their skin,
   or if it's a creature that has multiple skins (maybe layers, maybe
   different kinds of skin on different parts of the body), or if the
   skin just came off either by natural causes (as with Alan Anderson's
   snakes) or by the creatures being, well, skinned, then the body-part
   plural suffix {-Du'} may be used: {DIrDu'}. But {DIr} alone, without
   a suffix, is heard most often.




--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons






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