tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Nov 17 10:45:58 2006
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Re: Dragons and ketchup
Voragh:
> >For "meddle" see the slang word {Haq} "intervene in (a situation)" (KGT
> >151):
> >
> > The slang term {Haq} developed from the association of surgery
> > with invasion of the person, hence "intervene". Just as {Haq} in
> > the nonslang sense of "perform surgery" has negative connotation,
> > the slang term {Haq} ("intervene") is likewise disparaging, imply-
> > ing that the intervention was unnecessary and/or that the party
> > doing the intervening somehow handled the situation badly. Thus,
> > if one were to say {jagh HIvrup SuvwI' Haqpa' DIvI' qeSwI'} ("The
> > warrior was prepared to attack the enemy until the Federation
> > advisor intervened"--literally, "The warrior was prepared to attack
> > the enemy until the Federation advisor performed surgery"), the
> > implication is that the advice was unnecessary, counterproductive,
> > or both. The common nonslang term for "intervene" is {mun}.
>
>KGT lists {Haq} as "intervene in" but in TKD {mun} is just
>"intervene". Do you suppose that {mun} can also take an object?
Unfortunately {mun} has never been used, so we just don't know. Note that
Okrand's KGT example works with {mun} as it's being used intransitively:
jagh HIvrup SuvwI' munpa' DIvI' qeSwI'
The warrior was prepared to attack the enemy until
the Federation advisor intervened.
but that doesn't answer your question.
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Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons