ja' lay'tel SIvten: > ...<DevwI' bogh>... taQqu'! not lo'vam vIleghpu'. Qapbe' 'e' vIQub. Despite the "be" in "be born", I don't believe {bogh} is a verb of quality. It looks like you're trying to use it as if it meant live-bearing as opposed to egg-laying :) I translate the aphorism "leaders are born, not made" thus:' chenbe' DevwI'. boghqu'. -- ghunchu'wI'