tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Feb 08 15:51:59 2005
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Re: Klingon WOTD: chaQ (verb)
- From: [email protected]
- Subject: Re: Klingon WOTD: chaQ (verb)
- Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:51:03 EST
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In a message dated 2005-02-08 5:24:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
> >Remember that with double-predicate causative verbs, if there's only one
> >predicate present it can be either the person or thing who is made to do the
> >action *or* the person or thing ultimately affected by the action. Either
> >can stand as the object. In {qogh vItuQHa'moHpu'}, you can either interpret
> >it as is (which makes no semantic sense),
>
> But it is consistent with the {poSmoH} example below: what is opened or
> removed is the "natural" object of the verbs, with or without {-Ha'}:
>
> yIvbeHwIj vIpoSmoH.
> I opened my blouse.
>
> yIvbeHwIj vItuQmoH.
> I put my blouse on.
>
> qoghDaj tuQmoH.
> He put his belt on.
>
> qoghDaj tuQHa'moH.
> He took his belt off.
>
>
> Voragh
The {poSmoH} example is not valid. {poS} is a state verb; it takes no object
of its own. Thus adding {-moH} can add only one object: the thing opened.
Despite {raD}, I still like {'e' qaSmoH} for 'cause'.
lay'tel SIvten