tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jan 12 16:27:43 2004
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Re: Does {teb} appear anywhere in canon?
>ja' Voragh:
> >>marqoS wrote:
> >>> > I'm trying to determine there is any evidence as to whether the
> >>> > subject of {teb} is the agent or the substance.
> >
> >AFAIK we only have two examples.
> >
> >taD:
> >>In the Power Klingon audio tape, we have the phrase:
> >>
> >> "Fill a large glass!"
> >> {HIvje' tIn yIteb}
> >
> >The other is in the Frasier speech:
> >
> > lenglIj lutebjaj lengwIjvaD bel rap, Sov [rap, ngoQ rap je] Danobpu'bogh
> > May your journey be filled with the same joy, wisdom, and purpose you
> have
> > given mine.
> >
> >>So it looks like {teb} is used as:
> >> {HIvje' teb jabwI'} "The waiter fills the glass"
> >
> >Agreed.
> >
> >>and probably not:
> >> {HIvje' teb taS} "The liquid solution fills the glass"
> >
> >Agreed. There's no evidence from canon for this intransitive use of
> >{teb}.
ghunchu'wI':
>The Frasier speech is such evidence, is it not? leng luteb bel Sov ngoQ je.
I stand corrected. I saw "be filled" and thought "passive voice" and
completely ignored the obvious objective verb prefix {lu'-} "they [do
something] to them"! But stripping off the modifiers, we clearly have:
lenglIj luteb bel, Sov, ngoQ je
joy, wisdom and purpose fill your voyage
The intervening {lengwIjvaD} didn't help either! <g>
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons