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Re: [tlhIngan-Hol] Re: Hoch placement

Scott Willis ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [tlhIngan-Hol] Re: Hoch placement


> From: "Scott Willis" <[email protected]>
>
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Dar'Qang" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:15 AM
> > Subject: [tlhIngan-Hol] Hoch placement
> >
> >
> > > In order to say "all Klingons", would that be {Hoch tlhInganpu'} or
> > > {tlhInganpu' Hoch}?
> > >
> > > Is there a difference in meaning for the two placements?
> >
> > ngabwI':
> > Yes, there is. {Hoch tlhInganpu'} means "every Klingon", considering
them
> > individually. {tlhInganpu' Hoch} means "all Klingons", taking them as a
> > group.
>
> SuStel:
> That's not right.  The way to say "all Klingons" is explained in (I
believe)
> HolQeD volume 5 number 2, where Okrand says that {Hoch X} means "each X,
> taken individually" if X is explicitly singular, and "all X's, taken as a
> group" if X is explicitly plural.

{DopDaq qul yIchenmoH QobDI' ghu'} Sorry. I was concentrating on the word
order, and failed to take the plurality into account. Thanks for catching
that for me, man.

--ngabwI'
Beginners' Grammarian,
Klingon Language Institute
http://kli.org/
HovpoH 701216.5





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