tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Apr 03 11:56:49 2004
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Re: [Marketing] Klingon localization...
comments in line....
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From: "G. Roderick Singleton" <[email protected]>
Sent: Apr 2, 2004 7:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: OOo_marketing list <[email protected]>,=20
=09Christian Einfeldt <[email protected]>,=20
=09tlhIngan-Hol List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Klingon localization...
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 20:28, Jacqueline McNally wrote:
> Alex Fisher wrote:
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> > Well, at least one other OSS project is supporting Klingon... This snip=
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> > from the release notes for Lincvs 1.3.1....
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> > - commit to specific revision
> > - Elvish and Klingon fonts are supported now; translators welcome
> > - pure DNotify support (Linux only, read Help/DNOTIFY-HOWTO.txt)
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> > Note the middle line. Time we got an update on the OO.o Klingon effort,=
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> > think.....
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> And from: http://www.google.com/gmail/help/about.html
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> "4. Is Gmail available in other languages?
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> During this testing period, the Gmail interface is only available in=20
> English. However, we're committed to making Gmail available to as many=20
> people in as many languages as possible. And Gmail accounts can already=
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> be used to read and send email in most languages (even Klingon)."
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> If the OOo Klingon localisation cannot be publicised like other=20
> localisation teams and n-l projects, it really has little value except=20
> to a small keen group who are interested in the project.
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> There are many current and potential localisations of what some would=20
> consider minority languages. This is a strength of OOo. But it seems a=20
> shame if we cannot spotlight and share their success.
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Hi, sorry that I have not replied earlier. I am in Europe filming for the =
Digital Tipping Point.
Re publicity, I see no reason why the OOo Klingon project can=B4t be public=
ized. To the contrary, we are interested in publicity. But I personally a=
m interested in asking Klingonists to volunteer for the project under the a=
uspices of the Klingon Language Institute, for several reasons. First, Par=
amount might claim to have certain rights in certain aspects of its Star Tr=
ek franchise which overlap Klingon usage. Among those might be the word Kl=
ingon itself. I am very conservative when it comes to respecting IP rights=
, because those rights come with some very sharp teeth. I am concerned abo=
ut protecting OOo and anyone involved with the project from specious claims=
by Paramount. The KLI has negotiated rights with Paramount, and so I am h=
oping that we can support the KLI in its efforts to use OOo to enjoy their =
language study. Also, the KLI is a worthwhile association of linguists. T=
he KLI is not just about Klingon lore. Rather, it is an organization of li=
nguistic academics who are using Klingon to explore linguistic issues, and =
I think that this is a worthwhile endeavor.
So again, IMHO is a good thing for the KLI or members of the KLI to seek pu=
blicity for the OOo Klingon project, but it is really THEIR project.
Also, Klingon is a difficult language, and so that is another reason that i=
t only makes sense to let the KLI take the lead on that project.=20
So to the extent that we can help the KLI with support for its project, tha=
t is a great thing. Localization is a huge project, especially when it dea=
ls with a community like Klingonists who are spread out all over the world =
and have no place for easy face to face meetings as with a Terran language.=
So any help that anyone wants to give to the OOo Klingon project will be =
very much appreciated.
Thanks, and cheers!
Christian Einfeldt
> Do you think it worthwhile speaking to the Lincvs and Gmail people to=20
> ascertain how they considered the issues of using and publicising Klingon=
?
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Instead making decisions on limited knowledge, why don't you ask
Christian Einfeldt about the status? As to progress it is progressing
and you are invited to join the mailing list. Send an email to
[email protected] with a body of subscribe ooklingon.
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G. Roderick Singleton <[email protected]>
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