tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Aug 06 09:51:08 2003
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Re: be'Hom loDHom je
- From: Russ Perry Jr <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: be'Hom loDHom je
- Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:47:59 -0500
Steven Boozer <[email protected]> wrote:
> {qup} "elder" - {puq} "child" backwards BTW! - is another odd word.
> How would this be different from *{qanwI'} "old person (one who is old)"?
> It probably has more to do with rank or importance rather than just age
Given one of the examples you gave of "elder" in KGT:
> "Klingons revere their ancestors, respect their elders, and have
> unparalleled veneration for heritage." (KGT 133)
...I would suggest that possibly {qup} would be more respectful than
*{qanwI'}...
But then again, the others:
> "Younger Klingons describe some of the vocabulary used by their elders as
> {mu'mey Doy'} ("tired words")..." (KGT 35)
>
> "As he describes the thrill of his first hunt, Toq (Sterling Macer) reminds
> his elders of what it is to be Klingon." (KGT 90)
>
> "Younger Klingons, while accepting their heritage and observing the ancient
> rites, see some aspects of their elders' behavior and beliefs as, if not
> obsolete, then just old-fashioned." (KGT 133)
...don't seem as respectful as a whole (though of course it is Okrand using
the word "elder(s)", not Maltz). But still, I could see *{qanwI'} being
outright derogatory -- sort of implying that one is just succumbing to time
instead of living to old age proudly. Seems vaguely Klingon, that.
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