tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Oct 24 15:16:09 1998
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Qov's first ever posting [Was: Re: drillmusciangroup]
- From: Robyn Stewart <[email protected]>
- Subject: Qov's first ever posting [Was: Re: drillmusciangroup]
- Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:12:59 -0700 (PDT)
--Pam Felton <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thank you. You have no idea how intimidating it is to have
> > teenagers pop up and say, "Hi. I got TKD last week and I've been
> > lurking on this list for the past two hours. Here's my
> > translation of Moby Dick." And it turns out to be a GOOD
> > translation.
nuqaDbej. pawbe'chugh po'wI' chu' vaj maleS 'ej nuyonchoHmoH
laHmeyqoqmaj. Qo'noSDaq majatlhchugh <tlhIngan Hol wIjatlh>,
maDo'chugh Hagh tlhIngan. ghaytan nuHoH neH.
> LOL! Not to long ago I thought to myself, "Everyone starts at the
beginning, even Qov, so
> I'm gonna go into the archives, find her first post, and compare it
to mine. I bet they
> look nearly the same." *blaaahhhhhhhhh* I still can't match her
first post.
If you saw my first post on this list (as wovwI') you know my story.
In a way I think having no contact with other speakers is a bit of an
advantage: they never discourage you and you have no example of "this
person is a good speaker" or "it takes ten years to get to this point"
to limit you. I honestly believed that there were people out there
who had completely absorbed TKD and spoke the language fluently. I
just wanted to join them. I have a printout here of what may be my
*real* first 'post' on 25 February, 1988. I sent e-mail including the
following KLBC-like sentences [with my comments on them today].
ngeDHey tlhIngan Hol 'e' vIQub
[I notice in a similar letter a month later I had figured out my error
and wrote /Qatlhqu'be'/ instead of /ngeDHey/.]
poH 'ar tlhIngan Hol DaHaDlaH?
[I must have meant /ta'/ or /-taH/ not /laH/.]
'oH vIghojtaH wa' tera' jar.
[Obviously I hadn't discovered /qaStaHvIS/. I didn't pay enough
attention to the appendix in TKD in my first attempt at the language.
I was thinking to myself that I wanted to be able to form the
sentences for myself, not have them fed to me. I didn't realize what
a wealth of useful idiom there is in those few pages.]
yuQvam vIparHa'bej jIH.
[I was writing in an alien persona. Romulan, I believe.]
naDev jIQuch.
[DaHjaj jIQuchtaH. :)]
bIyaj'a'?
[tuyaj'a'?]
DaghItlhbogh vIyajchugh jIQuch.
[My first headless relative. Wouldn't Krankor be proud? :)]
----
>From the looks of this and other printouts, I was sending mail to
anyone who used anything resembling tlhIngan Hol in any Star Trek
newsgroup.
I see one that is headed "tlhIngan Holna' Dajatlhchugh HIghItlhneS"
with "If you do not understand Klingon, this is not important to you,"
written underneath as if it were a translation. Looks like I don't
change much. :)
I also have some of the first Klingon I ever wrote down, before that
post. Beginners everywhere will smile (and BGs wince) to know that it
was an attempt at Shakepeare translation, complete with a back
translation so you can see how I believed what I was writing meant
what I wanted it to. Something about Klingon just CALLS for beginners
to try to translate. pagh, would I be setting too bad an example if I
posted it?
> Much less ask
> if I need to spit more when I talk. :)
Yes. If you were spitting enough you would wonder if you should spit
less. :)
I remember the first time I spoke Klingon while eating, making the
stunned realization that while in English it's enough not to talk with
your *mouth* full, in Klingon the food has to be all the way clear of
the oesophagus if you want to be certain it's not going to shoot
across the table when you talk.
==
Qov - pab 'utlh
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