tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jul 29 09:55:32 1998
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Re: KLBC - Adverbials
- From: Robyn Stewart <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC - Adverbials
- Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:54:05 -0700 (PDT)
---Steven Boozer wrote:
> : ---Burt Clawson wrote:
> : > puqhommey vIghIj 'e' rut vIparHa'. "Sometimes I like to scare the
> : > little children scattered all about."
> :
> : /'e'/ takes the object position in the SAO sentence. So where does
> : the adverb go? Before the SAO, as far as we can figure. Thus
/... rut
> : 'e' vIparHa'/.
>
> lughlaw' Burt. See SkyBox S26:
>
> DuraS tuq tlhIngan yejquv patlh luDub 'e' reH lunIDtaH DuraS
be'nI'pu'
> lurSa' be'etor je.
> The sisters of the House of Duras, Lursa and B'Etor, are
constantly seeking
> a higher standing for the House of Duras within the Klingon High
Council.
>
> (I can only find this one example, though I seem to remember
another. Anyone
> else?) {rut} would seem to belong in the clause it's modifying:
>
> rut puqHommey vIghIj 'e' vIparHa'.
> I like to sometimes scare the children.
>
> puqHommey vIghIj 'e' rut vIparHa'.
> I sometimes like to scare the children.
>
> A fine distinction, to be sure, but one Klingon is capable of
making.
The difference is between sometimes enjoying the activity and enjoying
sometimes doing it.
> Perhaps the adverb is so placed because, in addition to being a
pronoun,
> {'e'} serves the practical function of clearly separating the two
clauses,
> which can be useful in long, complicated sentences. Also, if you
place the
> adverb before {'e'} -- puqHommey vIghIj rut 'e' vIparHa' -- it
sounds as
> though {rut} is the subject of {ghIj}, particularly if you don't
recognize
> the word. We may just have to accept this as idiomatic usage, in
spite of
> the "illegal" position of the adverb *between* the verb and it's
object.
va. /'e'/ nungnIS chuvmey 'e' 'agh Okrand 'e' vIHar, 'ach reH lugh
Voragh.
==
Qov - Beginners' Grammarian
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