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Re: List for beginners???

Thankx guys.

-----Original Message-----
From: Qermaq <[email protected]>
To: Multiple recipients of list <[email protected]>
Date: 25 July 1998 06:37
Subject: Re: List for beginners???


>ghItlh David Baxter:
>
>>Somebody please correct me if I am wrong, but when I first subscribed to
>>this list, it was a list for beginners.
>
>You are partly right. It is a resource for beginners, but it is also a
forum
>for all Klingon speakers. Long time ago, they thought about having two
>lists, one for raw chu'wI'pu' and another for fluent speakers - the idea
was
>passed up because it would cheat beginners out of seeing the language being
>used. So they instituted the "BG" and the "KLBC" to accommodate the
>beginners on a list which was originated as a fluent-speaker's list.
>
>>Now I am finding that the majority
>>of messages are written by people who appear to be quite fluent in
Klingon.
>>For people like me, who are looking to learn a new language, this is too
>>confusing. It is like putting a Japanese person in the heart of Paris and
>>telling him to get on with his life.
>
>jIyaj. It is time consuming and challenging to develop the skills needed to
>keep up with any language.
>
>Bear in mind these things:
>
>1) Because of the qep'a', there is no active BG on the list for now. There
>are a few experienced speakers who can answer questions of a general
nature,
>but we are not sanctioned as BG's and are reluctant to act as a BG without
>authorization. I'll answer any questions you pose which you open up to
>anyone to answer - otherwise, we really have to wait for a BG to come
>online.
>
>2) Right now, traffic is really light. It happens only once a year - during
>qep'a' - so the usual volume of KLBC submissions and corrections is down to
>nothing. Stick around. In a short time everything will be back to normal.
>
>>I have seriously considered unsubscribing from this list, and I know other
>>people have unsubbed, also because of the complexity of the language now
it
>>too great.
>
>Do'Ha'! But if you really want to learn Klingon, you will stick it out no
>matter what, eh? Don't forget, if there is even one word in a post you can
>figure out, you are more fluent in tlhIngan Hol than nearly the whole
>population of the planet. So you're doing great. I've thrown a few Klingon
>words into this post. You probably know what they mean - if you don't, you
>can figure it out easily enough, I'm sure.
>
>So today you get one or two words. In a few weeks you get 5 or 6 words. In
a
>few months you can almost read a short post without looking up too many
>words. Yes, there are some long posts I pass up, because even if they were
>English I don't want to spend too long reading them! But if the post isn't
>too long - some over the last few days are good examples - try to figure
>them out. Word by word. You'll need to look up nearly everything, I'm sure.
>I still look up words all the time and I studied Klingon for years before
>joining this list a little over a year ago. The first sentence I wrote here
>took 5 minutes of looking stuff up to compose. Now I can read most short
>posts without looking up more than one or two things. Next year I'll be
even
>better.
>
>Don't get discouraged that you can't read all the Klingon. I guarantee that
>less than 5% of the subscribers can read everything on this list without
>effort. Most are lurkers who haven't even come as far as you. Some are
>capable users of the language but need practice to develop more skill.
>There's room for all of us on this list.
>
>>Please bring the list back to what it used to be... a help place for
>>beginners, and a place where beginners can share new ideas and learn the
>>Klingon language.
>
>I find this list to be all these things still. When we meet our new BG in a
>few days, these things you wish for will be so. Now, it's kinda crazy. But
>be patient. Things will get back to "normal" soon.
>
>Qermaq
>
>
>

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