At 08:02 98-01-01 -0800, you wrote: } }DIS chu' Quch botIv vIneH! We know from KGT (p. 82) that we cannot use two adjectival verbs together in this way ({Quch} and {chu'}). Also consider the suffix {-jaj} for expressing your wishes. Qov [email protected] Beginners' Grammarian