tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Feb 15 06:31:29 1998
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Re: KLBC: Re: qechmey vIHutlh
ja' charghwI':
> On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:44:38 -0800 (PST) Christiane Scharf
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > ghItlh Qov :
> >
> > > At 12:33 98-02-08 -0800, HovqIj wrote:
> > >
> > > }HIpIch! <chay' "We tell each other a story" vImugh?> jItlhob 'ach qay'
> > > {-'egh}
> > > }{-chuq} je 'e' vIlIj. ('e' again... I just can't live without it.)
> > >
> > > It isn't something you can say in Klingon in so many words. As far as we
> > > know, a Klingon verb can have a reflexive object or a non-reflexive one, not
> > > both.
>
> While I agree that it requires more words, I will offer how I'd
> say it:
>
> lut qajatlh 'ej lut chojatlh.
>
> When you say, "We tell each other a story," there are really two
> stories involved, right? I tell you one and you tell me one. You
> can figure that the English is rather idiomatic, so it will
> require a bit of care to translate well. I chose {jatlh} instead
> of {ja'} because we have been told by Okrand that the object of
> {jatlh} is the thing said. Not the words said, the THING said,
> "thing" being something like a speech or address. Rather than
> paraphrase, I'll quote from MSN:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> The object of jatlh "speak" is that which is spoken. Thus,
> it's OK to say "speak a language," for example:
>
> tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh "you speak Klingon"
> (tlhIngan Hol "Klingon language," Dajatlh "you speak it")
>
> But it's also OK to say "speak an address, speak a lecture," for example:
>
> SoQ Dajatlh "you speak an address" or, more colloquially, "you deliver an address" or "you make a speech"
> (SoQ "speech, lecture, address," Dajatlh "you speak it")
>
> To say simply:
>
> jatlh "he/she speaks"
>
> implies "he/she speaks it," where "it" is a language or a lecture or
> whatever.
>
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> While we say, "tell a story", I suspect in Klingon the verb
> would be {jatlh}.
>
> > HovqIj
>
> charghwI'
Thanx, but my sentence was actually supposed to be past tense. I asked that question a few months ago and I already
got answers. I like {maja'chuqtaHvIS lut wIjatlh}. The only problem of that sentence is that {ja'chuq} can also mean
"discuss".
HovqIj