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KLBC++ : Some Questions on {jatlh}, {ghom}, etc.
- From: "Dawut Duy'a'" <[email protected]>
- Subject: KLBC++ : Some Questions on {jatlh}, {ghom}, etc.
- Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 15:18:49 PDT
Stardate 9808.09
Greetings.
While composing an email communiqué, I rendered {maghomqa'} for
"we meet again" and as a result several questions have been conjured.
In the spirit of {qajatlh} "I speak to you/I speak with you", would it
be acceptible to say, {qaghomqa'} for "I meet you again" or {choghomqa'}
for
"you meet me again"; or should these be fully expanded to {maghomchuqqa'
maH} "we meet/encounter each other again" and so on?
Some related questions were also manifested in my mind.
The {qajatlh} Situation:
We've seen {qajatlh} in "canon" for "I speak to you/I speak with you".
The Postal Course includes {qaghItlh} for "I write to you". We've also
seen mention of their expanded/alternate forms, {SoHvaD jIjatlh} and
{SoHvaD jIghItlh}, making use of the {-vaD} suffix's "for, intended for"
connotation. Here's the question: Does {SoHvaD jIjatlh} carry both
meanings of "I speak to/with you" (as in directly addressing someone)
and "I speak for you" (as in speaking on behalf of someone)?
-Hypothetical example of question-
ghojmoHwI': (checking chronometer) qatlh bIpaS be'?
loD: (beginning to speak on behalf of be') ropmo' paS ghaH 'ach...
be': (standing, addressing loD) SoHvaD yIjatlhQo'. jIHvaD jIjatlhlaH.
--
Teacher: Why are you late woman?
Man: She's late because she's sick, but...
Woman: Don't speak for me. I can speak for myself.
The Pronouns-with-Prefixes Situation:
We all know (or at least heard/read) about clipped Klingon, which is an
art unto itself. Aside from clipped Klingon, we see short-cuts or
shortened phrases quite frequently. Most would write/speak {qaHoH} for
"I kill you" instead of the expanded {SoH HoH jIH}. First Question:
Wouldn't the {qa-} prefix still be required for {SoH qaHoH jIH}? Second
Question: Are the expanded renderings more correct or more grammatically
preferred?
Thanks to all who offer questions/comments regarding this post.
tlhIngan maH!
reH tlhInganpu' taHjaj!
wa' Dol nIvDaq matay'DI' maQap.
batlh maSuvtaHvIS maHeghjaj.
manajtaHvIS qeylIS qa' wIghomjaj.
ratlh vaghvatlh Hut jajmey.
*****
Dawut (David)
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