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Re: KLBC: "bicycle pump"



At 09:50 98-04-10 -0700, qeyyoH wrote:
}At 03:50 PM 4/9/98 -0700, ja'pu'ghunchu'wI':
}
}>chay' "bicycle pump" mughlu'? :-)
}
}latlh DaqaD 'e' vISov, 'ach 'e' vImugh vInID.

{'e'} is only appropriate to refer to the previous sentence as an object of
a verb.  While technically you are referring to *a* previous sentence as the
object of {mugh}, {'e'} isn't right there.  Say simply {'ach vImugh vIneH}
"But I want to translate it."

At this point I realize you've written *{vImugh vInID}, giving me a change
to show you when you *should* use {'e'}.  Follow along in section 6.2.5.
When a verb or a sentence is the object of another verb, and that verb is
not {neH}, then the pronoun {'e'} is written in the object position of the
second verb. 

{vImugh 'e' vInID}  "I try to translate it."

But:
{vImugh vIneH} "I want to translate it."

And now at *this* point (this is a stream of consciousness KLBC), I realize
that you did it right in your first sentence, with {... 'e' vISov}, so maybe
it was just a typo.  But I leave the explanation for others.
  
}leng HabmoHwI'	 trip smoother?

:)

}naQmoH gho 		 circle filler upper?

"The circle makes whole"

You'd want {gho naQmoHwI'} to express "thing that makes a circle whole," but
as I'm sure you realize, no one would every figure out we were talking about
a tire pump without a lot more explanation.

It's a hard one.  I'd probably use something like {*bicycle* SIp raDwI'} or
maybe {SIp ghoDwI'}.  jIngor 'e' vISov.

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