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     ghItlhta'bogh *nIqolo *maHI'avelI qaSDI' joHma' DIS wa'SaD
       vaghvatlh wa'maH wej.
>I think "ghItlhbogh" is better: which he *wrote*, not which he had written.
>"qaStaHvIS" works better than "qaSDI'"; he wrote it *while* that year was
>going on, not "as soon as it occured."
   I meant that when the year occured, he had written it.
   chaq mu' <rIn> vIlo'chugh mu'tlheghvam Dayaj.

     loD che'taHbogh Hoch yoSmey Hoch woQmey je che' wa' che'wI' pagh
         'oH luche' ghom wIvbogh loDmey.
 
>Similarly, though the English uses "man"/"men", that's only English
>idiom for "people" (under fire now as sexist).  Why export English's
>problems?  Stick with nuv or ghot.
   Qo'.  Remember that this was written in 1513.  I don't think it's an
idiom, I think that Nic actually meant "men."
 
>It's pretty hard to follow; a disambiguating "-'e'" to flag
>the head-nouns could help.
   Where would that go again?  jIyajbe'.
 
     no' law'vo' yoS Hevlu' pagh chu' yoS.
 
<law'vo'> of course. reH Suvrup SuvwI'a'.
 
     rut 'oH tlhap no'vo' latlh yoS Hevpu'bogh che'wI'.
 
>Hmmm... OK.  Presuming "latlh" works like "Hoch", which it may.  Maybe
>Hevpu'bogh: one who has (already) received a country...
   Good idea.
 
     tIghmo' che'wI' lobqanglaw' yoS tlhaplu'bogh, pagh tIghmo'
        tlhab chaH luneH.

>I think of "pab" as following rules or laws, not a leader.  Probably "lob"
>would be better.  I think it's easier to understand if you say "tlhab chaH
>luneH."
   Right, otherwise it could be, "They are only free."
 
     yoSmeyvam Suqlu'DI' nuHDaj lo' che'wI', pagh latlh nuH lo',
        pagh Do', pagh po'.
 
>You should say "pagh latlh nuH lo'."
   bIlugh.

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