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Re: bom vIchenmoH



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>Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:43:08 -0700
>From: "Donald E. Vick" <[email protected]>

>ghItlh ~mark
>>>From: "Donald E. Vick" <[email protected]>

>>>maSvaD jachqu' 'Iwma'
>> I'll take this as poetic license, treating one's blood as
>> language-capable.
>That's how I meant it, I am aware of the irregularity of <'Iwma'>.

Fair enough.

>>>maSvaD jachlu' taHjaj
>> Hmm? Too many main verbs.  "something shouts to the moon may-it-continue."
>> Is this supposed to be two sentences?  That's okay, but punctuation helps.
>Do I need an <'e'> in there? It's supposed to be something like, "May
>there always be someone to shout to the moon."

"Someone to shout to the moon" looks like a relative clause to me (someone
who shouts to the moon).  "'e'" refers to the previous sentence as the
OBJECT of the current one, remember.  That's all it does.  You're trying to
say "May it continue that..." making the sentence the *subject* of "taH",
aren't you?  Klingon doesn't do sentence-as-subject, so far as we know.

Maybe "reH maS[vaD] jachwI' tu'lu'jaj"?

>> >HurghwI' loDnI'raj peja'
>> Do you want yIja'?  I'm a little confused by the last sentence.  Tell
>> darkness' your brother?  SHould it be "loDnI'ra'", if the brother is
>> sentient?
>"Say that the darkness is your brother" vIHech. chaq <jatlh> vIlo'nIS.
>This line was hard to fit into the tune.  I started with <HurghwI' loDnI' 'e'
>peja'> but there was no possessive in that.  I think loDnI'ra' *is* better.

Remember that verbs of speaking don't take 'e', and I think you're using
"jach" as a verb of speaking here.  If you ARE using "'e'", it's the object
of the verb and you have to use yI- and not pe-.  Possibly if you aren't
too, that's under discussion (for the longest time we have been considering
it the object, but SuStel fairly convincingly argues it shouldn't be, and
correctly points out that there's no canon).  "That darkness is your
brother"... Don't forget the "verb" there!  "HurghwI' ghaH loDnI'ra'" (if
it's loDnI'ra', it's ghaH and not 'oH).  Unfortunately, this sounds like
something out of Star Wars [not Star Trek]: "Yes, Luke.  The Dark One,
Darth Vader... he *is* your brother."  That's the problem with not having a
really good "darkness."

~mark

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