tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Dec 13 15:35:44 1996
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RE: Translation
- From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: Translation
- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 23:25:04 UT
December 13, 1996 4:04 PM, jatlh Travis R Rolph:
> My friend sent me this the other day when he found out I was beginning to
study
> Klingon:
>
> > juSpu'DI' wa'vatlh DIS,
As far as I know, {juS} refers to overtaking in a spacial sense. {qetwI'
vIjuS} "I passed the runner." For "One hunderd years have occurred," use
{qaS} {qaSpu'DI' wa'vatlh DIS}.
> > ghoSbogh veS Suvlu'pu'DI',
"As soon as the war which came had been fought." First of all, I think {ghoS}
must be used in a spacial sense. "War came" is not spacial. Secondly, the
way the verb {Suv} works, I don't think you fight a *war*, you fight
*somebody*. You can fight *for* a war, of course.
I'd change this whole thing to {ghoblu'pu'DI'} "As soon as making war was
finished." (This use of {ghob} was introduced in TKW.)
> > yay wIghajDI' tlhIngan
> > wo',
Yes, I think he was trying to say "when we of the Klingon Empire have
victory." I don't think you can do this to indicate "we of the Klingon
Empire." I also don't think you should "have" victory.
yay chavDI' tlhIngan wo'
When the Klingon Empire achieved victory.
If you *really* need to say that we are of the Klingon Empire (as if that
weren't obvious), just throw in a {tlhIngan maH!} somewhere.
> > tlhIngan Hol bojatlhbej Humanpu' Hoch jay'!
Again, he's trying to say "All of you humans" by confusing prefix and subject.
tlhIngan Hol jatlhbej Hoch Human jay'!
Every #&$^#@ human will certainly speak Klingon!
If it isn't clear that the speaker is talking to humans, just say so.
> > Heghbej DIvI' Hol! Heghbej
> > Human Hol latlhmey Hoch je!
He's trying to say "All other human languages." We know that to say "All
<something>," one says {Hoch <something>}. We don't know if we can use
{latlh} as we do {Hoch}.
Heghbej DIvI' Hol! Heghbej je Hoch latlh.
Federation Standard will die! All others will die, too!
> che'bejqu' tlhIngan Hol!
The emphasis is not on ruling, it's on the {-bej}. "Klingon will DEFINITELY
rule!"> I couldn't find <jay'> or <latlhmey> in my dictionary or on the web
page.
> I think that <jay'> is an adverb of duration, like forever. <latlhmey> is
> the plural of the objective noun <latlh>, but what does <latlh> mean?
Both {jay'} and {latlh} are in the Addendum to TKD.
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