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Re: result of verb?

At 01:18 PM 8/14/96 -0700, Craig Altenburg wrote:
>At 3:54 PM -0400 8/14/96, JEFF ZEITLIN wrote:
>>  As a sort of exercise, I'm attempting to translate some random
>>  sections of random documents, and I have run into a problem
>>  _again_.  Quite likely it's due to the fact that matlh has not
>>  given us a _complete_ tlhIngan Hol grammar and vocabulary, but
>>  it's still annoying.
>>
>>  What I need is some way of indicating the product/result of a
>>  verb - for example "evaluate (v)" -> "evaluation (n)".  Using
>>  the -wI' suffix is clearly not correct; that would give me
>>  "evaluator (n)".
>>
>>  The context is approximately "I have examined the information
>>  you have provided; my evaluation is that...".
>
>How about:  ..... 'e' vIchov.
>


*whistles and applauds*

I was going to comment that Englishuses "to be" a LOT (I wasn't the first
person to observe this. :) ).  Consequently, if you are translating
something to tlhInga, and you find yourself struggling to nominalize a verb
to use it with some form of "to be", you would do better to re-cast your
sentence so the verb is used as a VERB.

Incidentally, the verb suffix you are looking for is -ghach, although using
it on a verb with no other suffixes is a "marked" form.  In other words, it
is going to sound very weird, even though it is grammatically correct.


I would also use Qeygh's suggestion of  ... 'e' vIchov, rather than
perverting it to some form of ... 'oH chovghachwIj'e' (it's shorter, too. :) )


--tQ



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