Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qolqoS?

[Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>]

Here's what I have in my notes:

Qov (8/02/2007):  qep'a'Daq <nuq 'oS?>, ghel 'anghal:  "When I told you that it would be a small {qep'a'}, you wrote that that was okay, at least the {qolqoS} would be there. It seems to mean "fanatical core".  jangchu'be' Okrand, jatlh:  "Perhaps not necessarily fanatical," 'ach SIbI' John Colicos ghov 'op.  Kor Da.  QIjtaHbe' Okrand, mon neH.

ghunchu'wI' (7/29/2009):  There is no 'fanatical' implication in {qolqoS}. That was an initial guess at the meaning by Lawrence, which got the response "Not necessarily fanatical." I have it glossed as "core, essence". In the right context, I think "heart" could be an appropriate translation as well.

Other translations might be "die-hards", "inner circle", "cadre", etc.

--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Anderson [mailto:qunchuy@alcaco.net]
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Do we have an actual definition of {qolqoS}?
> 
> The simple gloss is "core". The first example of its usage was a note from
> Marc Okrand to Lawrence Schoen, acknowledging that the upcoming qep'a' was
> going to be small, but pointing out that the {qolqoS} of the KLI would be
> there.
> 
> > I think we can all agree on "core", but what about the rest?
> 
> I believe it should always make sense to translate it as "core" with the
> meaning shared by "heart" or "essence" or "kernel". It doesn't mean a
> piece of corn, or a scent, or a blood-pumping organ. I would not use it to
> refer to an apple core, or a drilled rock or ice sample.
> I am willing to entertain "nucleus" as a possible translation.
> 
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:31 AM, André Müller <esperantist@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > My main definition: fanatical core of a group; the most dedicated of a
> > group
> 
> Lawrence guessed that it meant "fanatical core", and Marc responded "not
> necessarily fanatical."
> 
> -- ghunchu'wI' 
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