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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Canon: Associate Producer

Rohan Fenwick ( [KLI Member]

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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>ghItlhpu' lojmIt tI'wI' nuv, jatlh:<br>&gt; But the only real rule is that (with few exceptions like {lI'be'} and {lo'laH}) verbs are monosyllabic.<br><br>In addition, for HoD qunnoQ's information, it's important also to know that most of the apparent exceptions listed in TKD are there simply as lookup aids (for instance, {jubbe'} "be mortal", {HeghmoH} "be fatal"), and {lI'be'} falls into that group as far as we know. Marc has addressed this idea explicitly in a posting to the MSN Newsgroup:<br><br>"For the most part, entries in The Klingon Dictionary (and also in the addendum in Klingon For the Galactic Traveler) that consist of verb + suffix are indeed just that, verb + suffix. For example, one entry in the Dictionary is pujmoH "weaken." This is really puj "be weak" and the suffix -moH "cause" (thus "weaken" is "cause to be weak"). Since -moH is a Type 4 suffix, if a suffix of Type 1, 2, or 3 is to be used (such as -chuq "each other" [Type 1] or -nIS "need" [Type 2]), it would precede the Type 4 -moH; for example, pujchuqmoH "they weaken each other" or pujnISmoH "he/she needs to weaken [somebody]." It is, of course, possible to add the suffix -moH to lots of verbs; not all of the verb + -moH combinations are listed in the Dictionary as distinct entries. The ones that are listed are there as much as a matter of convenience for the user as anything else. For example, there is an entry for "commit suicide" just in case anyone wants to look that word up; but the Klingon equivalent is simply HoH'egh, literally "kill oneself" (HoH "kill" plus Type 1 verb suffix -'egh "oneself")." (Okrand to MSN Newsgroup,  30 Nov 1997)<br><br>So despite the gloss, {HeghmoH} (for instance) isn't an adjectival verb as the gloss "be fatal" might suggest; it's a verb-suffix compound. {bIHeghmoH} means "you cause [an unspecified object] to die" - more simply, "you cause [things] to die", or "you are fatal". Marc does go on to note, though, that {lo'laH} *is* an exception, and despite its superficial similarity to {lo'} + {-laH} (from which it may be descended), it is indeed a disyllabic and indivisible root in ta' Hol. So it'd be {jIlo'laHchoH} "I become valuable", {Dalo'laHmoH} "you cause it to be valuable". {Dalo'moHlaH} means something entirely different, "you can cause [someone] to use it".<br><br>QeS<br> 		 	   		  </div></body>
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