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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Beginners corner

Felix Malmenbeck (

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<div style="direction:ltr; font-family:Tahoma; color:#000000; font-size:10pt">I'm afraid that wouldn't make much sensee to me.<br>
Consider what role you intend for jIH to have in this sentence. Is it as the object of the sentence? In that case, you need to make sure you have the right prefix and suffix.<br>
In this case, because both the subject and the object are {jIH}, the correct choice would be *jIHem'egh* (&quot;I proud myself&quot;).<br>
However, I believe it's quite widely accepted that {Hem} does not take an object. To say &quot;I'm proud of myself.&quot;, try to ask yourself &quot;What does 'of' mean in this case?&quot;<br>
English uses the same preposition for a lot of different purposes. &quot;of&quot; can meaning &quot;belonging to&quot;, &quot;relating to&quot;, &quot;coming from&quot;, &quot;due to&quot;, &quot;because of&quot;, and a great many other things.<br>
I think the &quot;of&quot; in this case could be interpreted as &quot;due to&quot; or &quot;because of&quot;. So, perhaps:<br>
* {jIHmo' jIHem.}<br>
&quot;I am proud because of me.&quot;<br>
That may be a bit unspecific, though. Consider:<br>
* {chavwIjmo' jIHem.}<br>
&quot;I am proud because of my achievement.&quot;<br>
* {jIQapta'mo' jIHem.}<br>
&quot;I am proud because I have succeeded.&quot;<br>
Also, consider using -moH (&quot;cause&quot;):<br>
* {jIHem'eghmoH.}<br>
&quot;I make myself proud.&quot;<br>
* {jIHem'eghmoHta'.}<br>
&quot;I've (intentionally and successfully) made myself proud.&quot;<br>
* {muHemmoH chavmeywIj.}<br>
&quot;My achievements make me proud.&quot;<br>
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<div id="divRpF895404" style="direction:ltr"><font size="2" face="Tahoma" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Maxim Sonin []<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 29, 2015 13:13<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Tlhingan-hol] Beginners corner<br>
<p dir="ltr">Another beginners question</p>
<p dir="ltr">Can you say: &quot;jIH jIHem&quot; as &quot;I am proud of myself&quot;</p>
<p dir="ltr">For example: I passed a hard exam. I am proud of myself.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Would this, if grammatically correct, be considered ignorant?<br>
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