# Re: [Tlhingan-hol] mathematics terminology

### Bellerophon, modeler (bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com)

```<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">On that FB discussion I used the terms {toghmeH mI&#39;} and {juvmeH mI&#39;}, which I doubt are new. I&#39;d expect the former would correspond to counting numbers (1,2,3...), but they might also be whole numbers (0,1,2...) depending on the concept of counting: consider {paghDIch mIw}. Seems unlikely the term could represent integers, since they can be negative. Also, we have no canon word for negative, just {taH} &quot;be at a negative angle.&quot; lojmIt tI&#39;wI&#39; nuv went into some depth discussing it: <a href="http://diswww.mit.edu/charon.MIT.EDU/ja&#39;chuq/98145";>http://diswww.mit.edu/charon.MIT.EDU/ja&#39;chuq/98145</a></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">{juvmeH mI&#39;} corresponds to rational numbers. Irrational numbers require limitless precision, which is impossible for measurement. This would hardly be a point lost on Klingons, who take precision seriously. Perhaps {mI&#39; pup} would be a term for real numbers.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Virtually all of mathematics is uncharted ground here. Klingon mathematics would use the same concepts but might express them much differently because of the way they were arrived at. Just look at Newton&#39;s and Leibniz&#39;s derivative notations, and they were contemporaries living a few hundred miles apart.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div>~&#39;eD</div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature">My modeling blog:          <a href="http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/"; target="_blank">http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/</a><br>My other modeling blog:  <a href="http://bellerophon.blog.com/"; target="_blank">http://bellerophon.blog.com/</a><br></div>
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