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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: ghIpDIj

lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh ([email protected]) 

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>{lo’laH} is actually a root verb, not a verb and a suffix. It is distinct from {lo’}. It may LOOK like a verb and a suffix, but it’s not. Though it is indistinguishable from the other root with a suffix, except by grammatical context:</div><div><br></div><div>{lo’} means “use” and can have a direct object. It can’t be used as an adjective.</div><div><br></div><div>{lo’laH} means “be useful” and can be used as an adjective. It can’t take a direct object.</div><div><br></div><div>This distinction quite likely is the result of a goof on Maltz’s part, but it’s one of those delightful little exceptions in the language… unless I’ve horribly misremembered something.</div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Aug 14, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Brad Wilson &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><font size="2" face="arial">
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<div id="AOLMsgPart_0_0c9e8121-1392-4a65-beec-a60a404b89bf" style="margin: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">TKD has ghIpDIj listed as verb on both sides. These are the only o</font></tt><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">ther multi-syllable verbs (not including suffixes) I can find:</span></pre><pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">He'So' - stink - TKD, verb on both sides</font></tt></pre><pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">HoSghaj - be powerful - TKD, verb on both sides</font></tt></pre><pre><tt style="font-size: 9pt;"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">nughI' -&nbsp;</font></tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 12px;">twist knuckle into someone's head - </span></font><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">1996 qep'a', reiterated in KGT</span></pre><pre style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;"><tt><br>
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</tt></pre><pre style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;"><tt>Voragh:
This is a rare two-syllable verb.

gheyIl:
Do we know for certain that &lt;ghIpDIj&gt; (court-martial) is a verb, and this is not 
an error in TKD?
We know there were other errors. Has it ever been used in canon to support the 
verb definition?

<pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>Voragh:
</tt></pre>AFAIK it's never appeared in canon.  I don't have a paperback TKD with me; is 
&lt;ghIpDIj&gt; listed as a verb on both sides of the glossary (English-Klingon, 
Klingon-English)?  Has anyone ever asked Okrand about this?

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