tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jan 23 11:55:33 2013
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Tlhingan-hol Digest, Topics: tlhIng yoS
BruceLiu:
>> I look up in one dictionary, it shows that:
>> jonta'QuQ n. engine
>> I prefer to use jonta'QuQ, since it seems to be more complex.
De'vID:
> qabbej meqvam. motlh Qatlhbe' tlhIngan Hol mu'mey.
That dictionary made a mistake. As De'vId implies, there is no such word in Klingon.
>> but another dictionary shows that:
>> jonta' n. engine
>> QuQ n. engine
We don't know what the difference is between these. Both appeared in Star Trek III in virtually identical contexts. (IIRC one was a back-fit for a line originally delivered in English; note the two different words for "gunner" as well.) Here's what I have in my notes:
TKD 78: Sometimes one member of a set may be partially analyzed. For example, {jonta'} "engine" begins with {jon}, which is also found in {jonwI'} "engineer", and ends with {ta'}, which also occurs in {mIqta'} "machinery". The other members of these synonym sets, {QuQ} "engine" and {jo'} "machinery", cannot be further analyzed.)
As used in canon:
baHwI', DoS yIbuS. QuQ neH. yaj'a'?
Gunner: Target engine only. Understood? ST3
matHa', DoS jonta' neH.
Gunner: target engine only. ST3
jonta' neH
only the engine TKD
tujqu'choH QuQ
The engine is overheating. TKD & CK
We also have other words which seem to overlap somewhat in meaning:
jan device (n)
- qa'vam jan SeH DIvI'. [The Federation controls the Genesis Device.]
(ST3 DVD case)
- qa'vam jan yISuq. [Acquire the Genesis Device!] (ST3 DVD case)
- Qapqu' wovmoHbogh janHommey It even has working lights! (Hallmark)
- janmey ngo' lulo'lu'DI' pIj jabbI'ID nISpu' woj Older models
were susceptible to radiation. S19
- chaHvaD nIb yan wIjwI' jan je They don't know how to distinguish
a sword from a plough! PB
- baHjan launcher
- begh botjan deflector shield(s) [only the mechanism?] KBoP
- peng baHjan (photon) torpedo launcher KBoP
- botjan shield(s) KBoP
- QoQ jan musical instrument
- Saqjan landing gear KBoP
- wIjwI' jan plough
- wovmoHbogh jan light
jo' machinery, mechanism (n)
- jopwI' jo' recoil machinery KBoP
- tal jo' cannon machinery KBoP
- tel SeHwI' jo' wing control mechanism KBoP
mIqta' machinery (n)
Never used AFAIK.
nguSDI' motor (n)
- tal SeHwI' nguSDI' cannon control motor KBoP
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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