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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Sunlight and Starlight

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<div dir="ltr"><div>Interesting thought, Seruq. The face of a moon could be anywhere from 0% to 100% lit. A completely dark moon is never above the horizon at night, so that&#39;s not an issue. But a crescent Praxis casts a negligible amount of moonlight on Qo&#39;noS. It comes back to what Klingons mean by &quot;maSwov,&quot; or for that matter what English speakers mean by &quot;moonlight.&quot;</div>
<div><br></div><div>What conditions prevail when we speak of moonlight in English? We refer to any light from the moon as moonlight, even if it&#39;s insufficient to illuminate our environs, but the term &quot;moonlight&quot; makes us picture enough light coming from the moon to provide illumination. Certainly when the moon is full, the earth&#39;s night side is bathed in moonlight. Our use of the term &quot;moonlight&quot; has subtleties from astronomy, poetry, etc., that could never be conveyed to a Klingon simply by telling him it means &quot;maSwov.&quot;</div>
<div><br></div><div>So what does &quot;maSwov&quot; mean to a Klingon? How does he speak of it? He probably doesn&#39;t say anything like &quot;puH Say&#39;moHtaH maSwov,&quot; but in a poetic mood he might say something equally strange to us, like &quot;yavDaq peD maSwov &#39;e&#39; munargh ramvam.&quot; And we might well use &quot;maSwov&quot; in accordance with canon, yet have Maltz tell us that no Klingon would phrase it that way.</div>
<div><br></div><div>&quot;tIHmey&quot; aren&#39;t only beams or rays of light, of course, though that doesn&#39;t mean that jul tIH and Hov tIH (or perhaps jultIH and HovtIH) might not be used to mean sunlight and starlight, even if not collimated. But if I ever meet a Klingon hippy chick, I bet her name will be maStIH.</div>
<div><br></div><div>~&#39;eD</div><div><br></div><div>Qo&#39;noS bavlaw&#39; cha&#39; maS. maS wa&#39;DIch pong &#39;oH <span style="background-color:rgb(245,245,245);color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:12px;text-align:right">pIraqSIS&#39;e&#39;</span> &#39;ej maS cha&#39;DIch pong &#39;oHlaw&#39; qorvIqIS&#39;e&#39;. (&quot;Corvix&quot;=qorvIqIS?)</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Seruq <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Through its phases a moon can be bright or dark.  The only time we get moon light is when the moon<br>
appears bright.  maSwov could come from &quot;bright moon&quot;.  But since the sun and stars are always<br>
bright, contructions like julwov and Hovwov could be considered odd, like &quot;duh, of course they&#39;re<br>
bright.&quot;<br>
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What is the canon for tIH?<br>
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- DloraH<br>
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