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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh HutmaH wej: Sor Hap boSmeH - READ ME FIRST

Robyn Stewart ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

At 14:08 '?????' 6/6/2012, you wrote:

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Qov <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sor Hap boSmeH

DIS yIQDaq Sor Hap Samlu'chugh, chay' lI'?
lI'laH Sor Hap yIQ. lumeQ luneHbe'. bIrbe' DIS. Qum luneHbe'. Soj luvutmeH tuj lulo'be'. 


> HurghtaHmo' DIS, poH lunoHlaHbe'chu'.

(I swear that I'm not reading ahead.)
And I swear I'm about forty chapters ahead right now, not sneaking one ahead to answer your questions. 


> Hoch luchchaj tlhappu'mo' pagh
> Qaw'pu'mo' bIQtIq, tlhaqmey ghajbe'.[209]

taHbe'chugh tlhaq HaHlu'pu'bogh, 'ut tlhaq chu'. QIv bIQ SIQlaHbe'bogh tlhaq.
tlhaq Segh'e' qengbogh tlhIngan yelwIyyItngan ghap vISovbe'. chaq QumwI'mey lo' neH. 


> nuHmey ghajtaH 'eSSIm.[285] Mahoun
> ghop rIQ nuD 'e' nID 'eSSIm 'ach Hurghchu'mo' Qatlh. jatlh Mahoun, "'oy'
> vISIQlaH." Mahoun Dabe' Mahoun.

muj 'eSSIm. reH Da'eghqu' Mahoun.
bIlugh. tlhIngan bIghHa'Daq 'oy' SIQ je, 'ach lutvetlh QoytaHvIS 'eSSIm buS'egh. 


> jatlh Mahoun, "maDo'. naDev law' bIQ QaQ.
> tlhIlmey vImumlaH 'ach ngImbe'."

bIQ neH 'empu' 'eSSIm 'e' vItul.


DISDaq ghoStaHmo' bIQ qay'be'law'.


> wej bIQvetlh tlhutlhqang 'eSSIm. 'up qech,

'upbe'law' yIntaHbogh Soj.


net Sov. ghaHvaD 'eyqu' yIntaHbogh Soj.


> 'ach yIntaHmeH tugh 'ut 'e' yaj.

jIyIntaHmeH tIq ghoDlu'pu'bogh vISopnISchugh, jIruch, 'ach ghaytan
vuDwIj vIchoHbe'.
jar cha', jaj wa'maH loS tlhoS loDnalwI'vaD nay'vetlh vIvut. vIvutmeH tuj vIlo' 'e' vInab 'ach jIvumnISmo' Ha'DIbaH ngevwI'vo' tIq vISuqlaHbe'. SoHvaD vIjabbe'nIS 'e' vIqaw. 


> jatlh 'eSSIm, "qaStaHvIS loS jaj wutlhDaq maSo''eghlaHchu'taHbe'. bong
> DISvam wISamta'. nejchu'chugh tlhIngan negh, SamlaH je."

nejchu'chugh negh, bIQtIqDaq Sampu' DIS lutu'pa'.


loQ buDlaw neghvetlh, qar'a'?


> jatlh Mahoun, "vaj pov tlhIngan nochmey. DujwIjvaD DIvI' nochmey nIv
> vIDIlta'.

jIHagh. DoghlaH DIvI' tIgh, 'ej QIplaH DIvI' ngoch, 'ach nIvlaw' DIvI' noch.
tlhochchuqbe'. tlhoS DughatlhDI' wo' HoSghaj QaQ Dapol 'ej qab DapolHa'. QIpbe' Mahoun. noch nIv je'. 


> ghorDaq jaQHa'bogh tlhIlmey DItu'laH 'ach wutlh Ha'DIbaHmey not
> DItu'." ghaytan nIv DIvI' noch cham 'e' Sovmo' 'eSSIm jangbe'. bomchoH
> Mahoun ghIq mev. jatlh, "loQ matamnIS. yuQwIjDaq wa'logh tlhIlHalDaq 'op
> tlhIlwI'pu' lujonlu'taHvIS bomtaHmo' Qoy vay' 'ej lutoDlu'. Qarghmey mach
> veghlaH wabmey." Hurghmo' mon 'eSSIm 'e' leghlaHbe' Mahoun.
> jatlhbe'nIStaHmo' Mahoun ghaHvaD Qatlhqu' poHvam.

loQ loDnalDaj joy'lu' 'e' tIvlaw'.


'e' tIvbe''a' be'nallI'?


> QubchoH 'eSSIm. loSleS ghungmo' pujchoHpu' 'eSSIm Mahoun je.[249] ngugh
> QalnISlaHtaH Mahoun.

'ej vIHtaHbogh bIQtIq 'omnIS. Qapbe'chugh, ghaytan qojvo' porghDaj
pummoH pumbogh je bIQ.

> DISDaq Soj nejchoH 'eSSIm. yavDaq tortaH 'ej ghop
> nechmoHtaH. nItlhDu' bIngDaq vIHchugh vay' woH 'ej chopchoH. letchugh nagh
> 'oH. charchugh lam ngogh 'oH. noghchugh ghew 'oH.

charlaH je ghewmey. "Slimy yet satisfying."


'ach noghbe'chugh Heghpu', vaj 'up.


> 'op ghewmey Sop 'eSSIm 'ej
> MahounvaD HochHom nob.[211]

Qubqu'.

> yavDaq tlheghmeyHey lutu'lu' je. wa' luH 'eSSIm.
> SIHqu'. wItlh. largh. mum. Sor Hap rur. mut ghovlaw'.[212]

Doj. yuQ nov Sor 'oQqar wejwa' Sov. 'ach tej ghaH, 'ej tI buSlaw'.
vay''e' SovnIS.


maj. 'eSSIm Sov Dayaj.


(Sor vImumchugh, chaq cha' mut vIghov. le' "Ponderosa pine", 'ej
ngeDqu' "Sassafras".)


chaq cedar vIghovlaH.


> tlhegh chenmoHmeH
> Sor wutlh 'ay'mey lo'laH 'eSSIm. lI'bej tlhegh.


DaH lI' Sor Hap yIQ 'e' Datu'.


 tIqwI' boSmeH Sor wutlh 'ay'
> tlha'choH. ghoStaHvIS 'eSSIm langchoHtaH DIS. tugh 'och moj. loQ SaltaH.
> 'aqroS jeqtaHmo' Sor 'ay'mey, mInDu' SoQmoH. burghDajDaj QotchoH 'eSSIm 'ej

<burghDajDaq>

But I don't think "lie on her stomach" works that way in Klingon.
Funny. I had just changed it to chorDajDaq as I edited the typo, and then scrolled down here. 


 This
is describing orientation rather than location. We have the
{QongDaqDaq Qotbe' tlhInganpu'} example to tell us one valid location
of {Qot}, and it isn't a body part. More relevantly, the ST5 notes
render "Romulan women belong on their backs" as {DungDaq legh 'ej
QotnIStaH romuluSngan be'pu'}, instead of using a more straightforward
but apparently incorrect {DubDaq Qot}.
I remember that and do use it sometimes. Not sure why I didn't here. Obviously the "legh" would seem silly in blackness, even though it probably works fine as an idiom. 


I might use a phrasing similar to the ST5 sentence, or I might try
{QotchoH 'eSSIm. yav Hot burghDaj},


Heh, I was just thinking of that, too.


 or {SaSchoH 'eSSIm...}.

> tlhetlhmeH DeSqIvDu' lo'. loQ 'och waQtaH nagh. juSmeH 'och DopDaq ghoSchoH
> 'eSSIm 'ej nagh juStaHvIS loQ nechmoH.
>
> pay' 'eSSIm DubDaq 'uychoH vay' 'ej 'eSSIm rechqu'moH.

va. purlaHbe'chugh, jatlhlaHbe' 'ej Mahoun rItlaHbe'.
DaH lImqa' net chaw''a'?


wa'leS DaSov. ('a bIloSnISbe').
- Qov 

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