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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] paq'batlh: TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE OF SOMETHING

De'vID jonpIn ([email protected])



<div class="gmail_quote">lojmIt tI&#39;wI&#39;nuv<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>We get large volumes of new canon full of mistakes and hints at new grammatical constructions without any official analysis or descriptions of grammatical constructions not given to us in TKD or the appendix or anywhere else. So, when we get new vocabulary, how do we know it&#39;s not misspelled? When we get new grammar, how do we know it doesn&#39;t have editorial errors?</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Most of the mistakes are just obvious typos.  I read through the whole thing in Klingon without having to think very hard about the grammar, and I didn&#39;t notice anything that absolutely required grammar that I didn&#39;t already know or guess.  I&#39;m not that skilled, but the {paq&#39;batlh} was a relatively easy read -- compared to, say, the Shakespearean plays.  (The only really difficult sentence is that ugly {quv HIja&#39;chuqQo&#39;} business already pointed out, and even then I could sort of justify it to myself.  {ngIq} is also new/interesting, but was already previously analysed on the mailing list.)</div>
<div><br></div><div>The new vocabulary that I learned at the {qepHom} didn&#39;t come from the {paq&#39;batlh}, but rather from word-of-mouth of words learned at previous {qep&#39;a&#39;mey}.  (I&#39;d already seen the TalkNow! stuff earlier.)  This lack of reliable transmission isn&#39;t MO&#39;s fault, but rather a consequence of the fact that the KLI web site no longer has a maintainer to update a single unified &quot;official&quot; new words list.  Quvar has just volunteered to maintain an addendum to that list.  A couple of other people also maintain their own new words lists, some of which are online.</div>
<div><br></div><div>As ghunchu&#39;wI&#39; said, it&#39;s not quite that bad.  Sure, we are getting some canonical errors, but we&#39;ve always had some canonical errors (some of which we later find out are examples of previously unknown grammar).</div>
<div><br></div></div>-- <br>De&#39;vID<br>
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