tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Sep 14 08:43:10 2009
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RE: nom*i*nal*ize 2. to convert (an underlying clause) into a noun phrase
- From: Steven Boozer <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: nom*i*nal*ize 2. to convert (an underlying clause) into a noun phrase
- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:41:47 -0500
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- Thread-topic: nom*i*nal*ize 2. to convert (an underlying clause) into a noun phrase
Krenath:
>> tlhutlhghach would be 'drinking' as in 'the act of drinking something'
>> but bItlhutlhghach would not be 'that act of you drinking something'
>>
>> tlhutlhghachlIj would much more likely be 'your drinking'.
lay'tel SIvten:
>You forgot the part about needing another suffix between the verb and
>{-ghach}: tlhutlhtaHghach, tlhutlhbe'ghach, and so on.
Okrand gives the example of {tlhutlhtaHghach} "ongoing drinking" in the HolQeD (3.3) article I posted earlier.
> MO: That's fine, I think it's a legitimate thing to do assuming the
> verb plus {-taH} is legitimate. It depends on the verb. In the
> dictionary I give four examples and that's all there is. There's
> "value", which is used kind of like *worthness and also
> "worthlessness", and then "discommendation" and "re-commendation".
I.e. {lo'laHghach}, {lo'laHbe'ghach}, {naDHa'ghach} and {naDqa'ghach} (all from TKD). In TKW he used {quvHa'ghach} "dishonor" in our sole example of a "{-ghach}ed noun" in a sentence:
qaStaHvIS wej puq poHmey vav puqloDpu' puqloDpu'chaj je quvHa'moH
vav quvHa'ghach
The dishonor of the father dishonors his sons and their sons for
three generations. TKW
Note that all five of these have another suffix between the verb and {-ghach}.
--
Voragh
Canon Master of the Klingons