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Re: chay' "Get out of the way!" ra'lu'?

Fiat Knox (fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk)



Ah.

I was following the last two lines of 5.3., "Conjunctions," on p. 55, "The conjunctions joining sentences occur between the sentences they join. For illustrations, see section 6.2.1," and "Compound Sentences," 6.2.1., on p. 61.

--- On Wed, 3/6/9, David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name> wrote:

> From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
> Subject: Re: chay' "Get out of the way!" ra'lu'?
> To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
> Date: Wednesday, 3 June, 2009, 8:14 PM
> Fiat Knox wrote:
> > I also recall "pung ghap HoS," "Mercy or power," where
> "ghap" is
> > "exclusive OR." Mercy and power are mutually
> incompatible, in this
> > sense.

> The objection wasn't to your choice of words, it was to
> your placement of the conjunctions.

> Instead of

>     <phrase> pagh <phrase> pagh <phrase>

> the suggestion was to use

>     <phrase>, <phrase>, pagh <phrase>

> because we've seen things like this before.

> However, I would call that a stylistic suggestion, not
> anything we know definitively about the grammar.

> Note that in /pung ghap HoS/, /ghap/ is a NOUN conjunction,
> which 
> usually goes at the end of the string of nouns, but in this
> case it is a 
> fossilized expression that must be said ungrammatically.
> Grammatically 
> it would be said /pung HoS ghap/, but that's not how the
> expression goes.


      






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