tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Nov 17 08:48:43 2006
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Re: Dragons and ketchup
- From: McArdle <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Dragons and ketchup
- Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:47:59 -0800 (PST)
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Steven Boozer <[email protected]> wrote:
>mIq'ey wrote:
>> {lung malja' yIniSQo' bIngalmo' 'ej bI'eymo' Dutlhejchugh qettlhup}
>
>"don't disrupt (interfere with) dragon business because you're chewy and
>(you're) delicious, if ketchup accompanies you"
>
>Clearly I don't recognize this quote!
Sorry. The original quote is :
"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup."
(With variations: "Meddle not ..."; "... ye are crunchy ..."; "... taste good with ...")
This shows up from time to time on bumper stickers and t-shirts. (Try googling {dragons ketchup} and you'll see.) Since your translation captures exactly what I was trying to express, I think I'll count it a success. OTOH I'm open to suggestions if you think there are better ways to express any of this in Klingon.
>
>>Since there doesn't seem to be a word for "crunchy",
>
>Not knowing what you're trying to say, I think {ngal} is pretty close,
>though {tlher} might do in a pinch:
>
>In terms of texture, Klingon food may be {ngal} ("chewy"),
>{char} ("slimy"), or {tlher} ("lumpy"), all considered
>positive attributes (depending, of course, on the particular
>dish). (KGT 84f.)
Yeah, I saw that. I suspect that of the three, {ngal} is closest to what I wanted (I associate "lumpy" with gravy, which I don't think fits this context, although a Klingon might disagree).
>>I had thought to do something with {choptaH}, on the order of "one can
>>gnaw you",
>
>{choptaH} "it bites continuously, it keeps on biting"
Rendered "gnaw" at KGT 89. I like the idea of dragons gnawing on human bones like Klingons on a {naHnagh}, and I may still go with this now that you've acquainted me with KGT 181.
>>but I ran up against the fact that both {-lu} and {-laH} are type 5
>>suffixes and thus, as I understand it, can't coexist. Is there any way
>>around this? (It's surprising that {-laH} is type 5 given that other
>>suffixes I would consider semantically similar, such as {-qang} and
>>{-rup}, are type 2.)
>
>Keep reading.
I shall. Thanks.
qatlho' 'ej qavan
mIq'ey
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