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Surak on nobility

MorphemeAddict ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol taghwI']



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In a message dated 11/8/2006 9:46:15 AM Central Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:


> As an example of the abstract idea in Trek, Surak once said: "Nobility lies 
> in action not in name."  [Anyone know the source for this?]
> 


This is the closest thing to a source I could find:
http://www.trektales.com/portal.html 
from "Time Portal", by Saidicam29:
 
Amanda gave a slight smile. "Another follower of Surak? In that case, and I 
hope I'm quoting this correctly, 'Shiyau thol'es k'thorai ri k'ahm (Nobility 
lies in action not in name)'."Spock nodded to her. "That is correct, and most 
kind. However, I think an Earth philosophy would be more fitting, 'Do unto 
others as you would have them do unto you'."

DISCLAIMER: The Star Trek characters are the property of Paramount Studios, 
Inc. The story contents are the creation and property of Saidicam29 and is 
copyright (c) 2001 by Saidicam29. Beta Reader: Selek - thank you so much!!! 
Acknowledgments: I want to thank J.M. Dillard for creating the Silek, Sarek's 
younger brother in the profic novel Demons. I also want to thank Selek for allowing 
me to borrow some themes from his story "Reminiscing." Rated PG13.

lay'tel SIvten  

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<BR>Amanda gave a slight smile. "Another follower of Surak? In that case, an=
d I hope I'm quoting this correctly, 'Shiyau thol'es k'thorai ri k'ahm (Nobi=
lity lies in action not in name)'."Spock nodded to her. "That is correct, an=
d most kind. However, I think an Earth philosophy would be more fitting, 'Do=
 unto others as you would have them do unto you'."
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 PTSIZE=3D10 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FA=
CE=3D"Georgia" LANG=3D"0">
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#400040" SIZE=3D3 PTSIZE=3D12 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FA=
CE=3D"Georgia" LANG=3D"0"><B>DISCLAIMER</B>: The Star Trek characters are th=
e property of Paramount Studios, Inc. The story contents are the creation an=
d property of Saidicam29 and is copyright (c) 2001 by Saidicam29. Beta Reade=
r: Selek - thank you so much!!! Acknowledgments: I want to thank J.M. Dillar=
d for creating the Silek, Sarek's younger brother in the profic novel Demons=
. I also want to thank Selek for allowing me to borrow some themes from his=20=
story "Reminiscing." Rated PG13.
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