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Re: Multiple ands...

Steven Boozer ([email protected])



Shane MiQogh:
> >"Fire torpedo tubes 1, 2, and 3!" Would it be...?
> >"DuS wa', DuS cha', DuS wej je tIbaH!"

QeS:
>lughchu'.

The rule is given in KGT (p.139):

   In standard Klingon grammar, the conjunction follows the last
   noun of the conjoined set; for example, {naQjej 'etlh taj je}
   ("spear, sword, and knife"; literally, "spear, sword, knife
   and") or {tlhInganpu' romuluSnganpu' ghap} ("either Klingons
   or Romulans"; that is, "Klingons Romulans or").

FYI younger Klingons are sometimes careless of this rule:

   When it comes to grammar, the younger generation is innovative
   as well. One of the more noteworthy characteristics of their
   speech is the placement of conjunctions joining nouns ({je},
   "and"; {joq}, "and/or"; {ghap}, "either/or"). [...]  Instead
   of putting the conjunction after the last noun of the phrase,
   younger Klingons are often heard putting it before the final
   noun: {naQjej 'etlh je taj}, {tlhInganpu' ghap romuluSnganpu'}.
   This is a common young person's error, and teachers seem to
   be constantly correcting it, with reasonable success.

IRL this "young person's error" was inspired by young actress Spice 
Williams' ("Vixis") error in ST5:

   KRELL: <<... tlhIngan'e', tera'ngan'e', romuluSngan'e'>>
          ["... a Klingon, a Terran, a Romulan"]   (untranslated)
   VIXIS: tlhIngan ghaH wa' vub'e'.
          One of the hostages is a Klingon.
   KLAA:  latlh?
          And the others?
   VISIX: wa' tera'ngan je wa' romuluSngan.
          A Terran and a Romulan.



--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons






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