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Re: alien message? (KLBC)

Steven Boozer ([email protected])



lay'tel SIvten:
> > Today's APOD is a real space message:
> > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

nuQum qIno'rIq:
>[How do I say: picture, photograph; constellation
>
>(my suggestions: constellation{Hov DaHqoq}, though probably a better term
>around;

"star bank" - not bad.

Some time ago DaQtIq coined *{Hovghom} "star-group", which I think is 
excellent.  It's formed on the model of {mu'ghom} "dictionary" (lit. 
"word-group"),  {mangghom} "army" (lit. "soldier-group") and {tIjwI'ghom} 
"boarding party" (lit. "boarder-group").  Note that {Hovtay'} is "star system".

The only known Klingon constellation is called {ghochwI'} "The Tracker", 
which contains the bright star around which the planet Boreth (known from 
the Kahless myth) orbits.

"Picture, photograph, image" has always been a problem.  The closest we 
have is {HaSta} "visual display (on monitor)" which to me means the image 
projected on the monitor screen {jIH}.  Since clicking on the above URL 
indeed produces a visual display on my monitor screen, {HaSta} is entirely 
appropriate here.  Whether it can be used for other kinds of images - such 
as a printout of the image on the screen - is unknown.

Another term that some people use for "picture" is {nagh beQ}  "stone panel 
(artwork, similar to a painting)":

   Carving or incising is also done on flat surfaces, usually a stone
   panel or {nagh beQ} (literally, "flat rock"), a term that bas been
   extended to mean the resulting artwork itself as well as similar
   pieces, including paintings. Such carvings are sometimes just
   ornamental, sometimes informational (if the Klingon writing system,
   {pIqaD}, is incorporated into the design), sometimes representational.
   What the Federation would classify as a painting - that is, a {nagh
   beQ} featuring an image not carved into it but painted onto it - is
   made by applying {rItlh} ["pigment, paint, dye"] ...      (KGT 80)

Again to me this means an actual flat, solid object - i.e. a painting or 
mural vs. {Hew} a "statue" - and not the abstract idea of an image or 
picture in a book.

>and: picture, photograph {jIHqoq}

"so-called monitor"

No.  {jIH} is the monitor itself (i.e. the device).  Cf. {jIH'a'} the main 
viewscreen on the bridge of a ship.



--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons






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