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Re: More on Ray Charles

QeS lagh ([email protected])



ja' juDmoS:
>matay' 'e' Hoch ram vInajtaH 'e' DaSovbe'
>"You don't know that I dream each night that we are together."
>Well? whattaya think? Does that work?

I won't comment on the semantics, since ghunchu'wI' has done that already. 
There is an error here, though: remember that {-taH} is an aspect (Type 7) 
suffix, and therefore it cannot appear on a verb that has {'e'} as its 
object. *{'e' Hoch ram vInajtaH} is ungrammatical; {'e' Hoch ram vInaj} is 
the correct way of saying this.

jang ghunchu'wI':
>DoS puSlaH <naj> 'e' wISovbe'.  chaq bIv <vInaj>.  chaq pab.  maSovbe'.
>{naj} is defined for us as "dream", not "dream about".  I will understand
>what is intended when someone uses it with an object, but absent canon
>support I will not do it myself.

Well put. We don't know that {naj} can sensibly take an object - although 
that said, I think {matay' 'e' vInaj} is more likely to be grammatical than 
{qanaj}, since we've used other verbs in that way. {chup} and {Har} spring 
to mind.

Savan,

QeS lagh
taghwI' pabpo' / Beginners' Grammarian


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